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Crown said:
It's an interesting discussion but what is the link between "AgeGate" and this alleged "unsub bug" ? Have YouTube made an announcement about this? Could you link to a source please? I'd be interested in reading it, thanks. :)
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reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/5z8qp9/youtube_agegate/

I came across it in this reddit post. By the looks of it, after a few negative comments, it's been edited out of the original post.[DOUBLEPOST=1489773504,1489773356][/DOUBLEPOST]
ItsBecky said:
I have a friend who does LGBT videos and apparently this feature is causing havoc amongst that community as it blocks all their videos, so they cant get their videos out there to viewers just because they are talking about LGBT subjects, and a lot of gaming videos are affected too, but I keep reminding people it does need to be turned on first, however I don't understand why LGBT videos are being restricted that's pretty bad on youtubes part
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I can see, with freedom and equality being big topics nowadays, why you think LGBT stuff shouldn't be restricted. I only partly agree with this though. Sexual content is restricted (for obvious reasons), and because of this, I think videos regarding sexual preference may be restricted as well.
 
I don't like it and hope it won't happen in the near future. If you're a parent and don't want your children to be watching videos that are considered "restricted" then just don't let them on YouTube unattended... I agree, YouTube should not be like a babysitter. This is going to affect so many YouTubers.
 
winson yuen said:
I don't like it and hope it won't happen in the near future. If you're a parent and don't want your children to be watching videos that are considered "restricted" then just don't let them on YouTube unattended... I agree, YouTube should not be like a babysitter. This is going to affect so many YouTubers.
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I don't think it is going to affect that many. The restriction mode isn't even on by default.
 
Idec Sdawkminn said:
YouTube should not be a babysitter
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Exactly, and there is no better way to put it!

Hildandia said:
Parents should be aware of what their children are watching no matter what and thats their job to do so, not YouTube's.
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I agree. I've never understood why people believe "it's YouTube" so it's ok to do that. Would they send a kid to their room to watch unrestricted cable? That's basically what YouTube is. Cable/satellite TV offers channels that are inappropriate for 6 year olds, and so does YouTube. Right now YouTube is going through a growing pain as they transition from what they were to what they want to become, but even once they get there, it is still the responsibility to the parent to... PARENT their children. (Gasp! Right?!)

KatyAdelson said:
They used to already have age-restricted content. Did that go away at some point?
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They still have the age-restricted content warning they've always had. I don't log into my account for general YouTube surfing and come across the content warning [You must be 18/log in to view this content] regularly. More with movie previews than anything else.

Niels Cornelissen said:
For someone on a forum centered around YouTube, you don't seem to like the platform so much xD
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Just 'cause you're a kid at the park doesn't mean you automatically like every new jungle gym they install! ;)

Neils, after reading more about this... something seems fishy... YouTube has been rating videos for content since the beginning, so the whole keemstar "they're rating videos" isn't news. Rating channels, that's a new one. And interesting. But for it to be the cause of the unsub bug? I find it hard to believe that, that many "kids" were subscribed to "mature" channels. Lots of holes in that theory.

As far as a "new" rating system for videos/channels being rolled out, doesn't seem like a stretch to expect at some point that YouTube would rate channels for "viewer discretion", that's what networks do and that's what YouTube wants to be. But if YouTube were to institute a program that selectively hid videos based on age, it would make them the first company in history to proactively protect younger viewers on such a massive scale. If you're as big as Google, and on the verge of being the first to do something so universally monumental... would you really botch it like this?

Your assertion that videos aren't being seen in "restricted mode" and are thus the basis for the unsub bug is dubious. Anyone viewing in "restricted mode" wouldn't have seen the videos to begin with and resultantly wouldn't have sub'd to the channel. Further, in the system as described by keemstar, viewer discretion is not improved. You have to see something to act on your discretion to watch it or not. By hiding videos, viewer discretion is worsened because people are not given to opportunity to exercise discretion.
 
Famous said:
Neils, after reading more about this... something seems fishy... YouTube has been rating videos for content since the beginning, so the whole keemstar "they're rating videos" isn't news. Rating channels, that's a new one. And interesting. But for it to be the cause of the unsub bug? I find it hard to believe that, that many "kids" were subscribed to "mature" channels. Lots of holes in that theory.

As far as a "new" rating system for videos/channels being rolled out, doesn't seem like a stretch to expect at some point that YouTube would rate channels for "viewer discretion", that's what networks do and that's what YouTube wants to be. But if YouTube were to institute a program that selectively hid videos based on age, it would make them the first company in history to proactively protect younger viewers on such a massive scale. If you're as big as Google, and on the verge of being the first to do something so universally monumental... would you really botch it like this?

Your assertion that videos aren't being seen in "restricted mode" and are thus the basis for the unsub bug is dubious. Anyone viewing in "restricted mode" wouldn't have seen the videos to begin with and resultantly wouldn't have sub'd to the channel. Further, in the system as described by keemstar, viewer discretion is not improved. You have to see something to act on your discretion to watch it or not. By hiding videos, viewer discretion is worsened because people are not given to opportunity to exercise discretion.
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I do not believe there's a connection with the unsub glitch either, it's just a rumour that I've heard.
 
TheDutchTexan said:
Use YouTube kids... there you go... Problem solved!
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I didn't even know that was a thing until I read the post Painter made in "How To Get Videos On YouTube Kids App" thread. It was copy/paste from the Google Support page and news to me. But the first thing I thought of was this thread. Now all the "they're rating videos/channels" makes sense. One rating for the Kids App, one for general viewing and one for "Mature Content". But connecting it to the unsub bug still seems like a bit of a stretch.
 
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