Sub-Net or Original network?

SanderV said:
So CPM's are the same but how much you get gross can be different? I belive Azure or CN was offering 70 or 75% gross and ZoominTV as main channel 80/20? Or i'm confused after reading 4272 pages here about contracts :')
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ZoominTV gives sub-networks a choice on whether to give channels 70%, 75% or 80% revenue share.
If you care about the money, in your shoes I'd remove any of the networks which don't offer the full 80%. Then of the remaining ones, I'd email them all with some pre-determined questions and see how quickly they respond and what the quality of their responses are like.
Then from there, I'd base my network of choice on their revenue share and how good/fast their support is.
If you don't care about them money, I'd skip the step on ruling out lower revenue share networks.
 
What is fully 80%? And still it's a strange way of knowing it all when we talk about netto/gross revenues.. this is the mail i got from them.

Youtube always tells what gross revenue is, but we never receive it. Youtube takes its share (approx 45%) and what every network gets is the netto revenue. From this revenue partners get their share, which is in our case 80%.
So if your gross earnings are 100 dollars, Youtube will take 45 dollars, we take 11 dollars and you will receive 44 dollars.
 
SanderV said:
What is fully 80%? And still it's a strange way of knowing it all when we talk about netto/gross revenues.. this is the mail i got from them.

Youtube always tells what gross revenue is, but we never receive it. Youtube takes its share (approx 45%) and what every network gets is the netto revenue. From this revenue partners get their share, which is in our case 80%.
So if your gross earnings are 100 dollars, Youtube will take 45 dollars, we take 11 dollars and you will receive 44 dollars.
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Well since they're all under the same MCN: ZoominTV, the revenue shares are all going to be net revenue, so you can directly compare the revenue shares. What you posted there is correct, Google/YouTube take around 40% or so (depending on the MCN's terms with them), and the network takes around 60% gross revenue. Then that is split between the partner, ZoominTV and the sub-network. The sub-network and Zoomin take half of whatever's left after the partner has taken their share. So if the partner gets 70% net revenue (as the sub-network can change the amounts), Zoomin will get 15% and the sub network will get 15%.
 
And thats why i never get it how networks can make you earn more than Adsense.. they give you 68% i belive ? and networks with all there cuts.. you loose almost 60% at all time in the end.
 
SanderV said:
And thats why i never get it how networks can make you earn more than Adsense.. they give you 68% i belive ? and networks with all there cuts.. you loose almost 60% at all time in the end.
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Well as far as I know, Google take more-or-less the same cut from MCNs in Adsense as they do from 'normal channels' in Adsense. So if it's an 80/20 split, it would look like you loose 20% of the net revenue by going with a network. However, some networks provide higher CPMs (but that also means some networks have lower CPMs). For example, ZoominTV and all their sub-networks have an average CPM of $5 (but can fluctuate between $3 and $10 CPMs) - which is probably much higher than you'd get on your own. On the other hand, networks like Machinima offer a flat rate CPM of $1.5 - $2.5 (I think, don't hold me on that one though). So just at looking at the stats, even if Zoomin (or their sub-networks) take 20% of the net revenue, you're going to get more money than if you get Machinima's highest flat rate CPM.

Most networks promise to offer more than Adsense, but as you pointed out, it's not always the case. But on the other hand, it can be the case. But regardless of whether it is or isn't, networks also offer other services like support (non-existent in RPM (since they began taking on channels with 0 daily views) and AwesomenessTV), branding, YouTube Live Beta access etc.
 
And one more thing.. the dashboards @ networs, the numbers you see there, they are all netto ?

So lets say i got 500$ this month, from that money YT will take 45% network 20 and the rest % is for me ? or does the dashboard take from every dollar you earn there part of en you see your gross numbers there?
 
SanderV said:
And one more thing.. the dashboards @ networs, the numbers you see there, they are all netto ?

So lets say i got 500$ this month, from that money YT will take 45% network 20 and the rest % is for me ? or does the dashboard take from every dollar you earn there part of en you see your gross numbers there?
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The dashboard should (as far as I know, but could vary between networks) show how much money you'll actually be getting. It may not include the 2% cut that PayPal takes, but should only show your 80% of the net revenue.
 
Shaun Hilfreich said:
The dashboard should (as far as I know, but could vary between networks) show how much money you'll actually be getting. It may not include the 2% cut that PayPal takes, but should only show your 80% of the net revenue.
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And paypal takes 2% cut 2 lol... in the end you realy get stolen from 22 3rd partys lol.
 
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