Networks that are offering 100% Payout are scamming YouTubers?

Example: TGN is offering 100% payout to all partners. It's not 70-30. It's not 80-20. It's not even 90-10; it's 100-0.

Are these contracts a scam or am I missing something here?
 
Example: TGN is offering 100% payout to all partners. It's not 70-30. It's not 80-20. It's not even 90-10; it's 100-0.

Are these contracts a scam or am I missing something here?
According to TGN... BroadbandTV is picking up the bill by "financing our network"... which enables that move.

They must have reasons this came about, but it's kind of unclear exactly why. Our only public take is they're using it to bring in more channels now... for some other purpose in the future. It seems like a bad long term plan if you ask us, but not necessarily a "scam". :)

 
@Creator X and ghostlyrich
I believe that could make sense as a temporary action, if their goal is to bring in more channels for a short period of time. I believe however this is not the case and the contract may be a scam.

Researched a bit and found some rumors. Apparently what people are saying is that BroadbandTV takes a cut of your earnings and sends the rest to TGN. You get 100% of this rest that was sent to TGN.

I just find it absolutely ridiculous how a network can claim to be offering a 100-0 deal. Sounds like a scam but yes there's always the possibility that BroadbandTV is financing this TGN for some reason.
 
when i went on the tgn chat when they were 80-20 there recruiters and members were screaming it was a scam


Were they still stuck on 80/20? I'd be screaming it too! heh

Really though... it was kind of unclear if it was "100%" for everyone or just for new partners, but info indicates it's across the board...
Automatically payout increase – If we announce a better version of your payment plan in the future, we automatically upgrade your contract to the higher payout

The lack of clarity in some places probably isn't good for their PR on this. I bet there is a lot of confusion on that point.


@Creator X and ghostlyrich

I believe that could make sense as a temporary action, if their goal is to bring in more channels for a short period of time. I believe however this is not the case and the contract may be a scam.

Researched a bit and found some rumors. Apparently what people are saying is that BroadbandTV takes a cut of your earnings and sends the rest to TGN. You get 100% of this rest that was sent to TGN.

I just find it absolutely ridiculous how a network can claim to be offering a 100-0 deal. Sounds like a scam but yes there's always the possibility that BroadbandTV is financing this TGN for some reason.


Yeah, they never say "temporarily" or "promotional"... so it seems like a long term commitment... and we agree that part does not make sense.

On your second point. We have heard (but can't really confirm) that some networks base the % split on what they get from another network above them. (we don't and we don't like the tactic) So, the first network gets 100% of gross and the sub-network gets X% of that. Then the sub-network bases their split (70/30 or whatever) on what they actually got.

Even if that's true... TGN still needs revenue to survive. Networks are not cheap to maintain. (money or time wise) So, they must be getting revenue from somewhere else above the "100%". Anyway, we'll paste in a quote from TGN and leave interpretation of the wording up to everyone else.

100% Payout

Signing up with TGN means you get the best rate, period. Get 100% of everything TGN receives for your channel!

How is this possible? Because BroadbandTV is TGN’s YouTube sponsor and they agreed to pay all of TGN’s staff and expenses.

We do not place an artificial $2 or $3 cap on your earnings the way other networks do.

For example, if TGN gets a $10 CPM ad-buy, you will earn 100% of that $10 CPM. To put it simply, there is no glass ceiling on your revenue.


Overall, we're not calling it a scam and want to give TGN the benefit of the doubt, but we're definitely questioning the business sense. Without knowing what agreements they have in place with BroadbandTV it's hard to make judgement calls anyway. BBTV may have bought them out for all we know... and the rest is just careful wording.

Regardless of all that, they still have a PR problem... because it does come off shady. They'd almost be better off to just offer 90/10 ... would still sound awesome and would cut down the questioning big time.

Ultimately, time will tell.

( Quotes sourced from http://tgn.tv/partners/ )
 
it might be a scam or not. I've been with them when they still have that 30% contract and I get the most out of it. About their new contract with 100%, it's either they are now one in BBTV or this will be only for a short period of time. They need to fix a lot of things too. George, the former TGN president, has resigned few weeks ago if you do not know.
 
Let me guess, it's 100% NET Revenue you receive so... what percentage are the operating and commission fees? Won't make a difference
 
Seem to me that There's something wrong here.
I'm 10928300123% sure that they must take % , even if 1% . So maybe as some of the members said
" They'll Give you 100% after the "mother company" takes it's share" . I still prefer Yeousch Over all of the other network .
 
If i'm not mistaken they payout 100% minus certain "fees".


Then what's the point of saying they'll give 100% payout? If they manipulate the "fees" like that, then the % they're saying they are offering doesn't even matter.


I dug a little deeper: Couldn't access TGN's new 100% contract, they went confidential on their contracts with this new 100% payout deal. However I found out that other networks are starting to offer 100% too. Curse network, who has their contracts available to the public, has an "emerging market contract", directed for non-english channels. The following is an excerpt from the contract:

"4.1 VOD Content. Subject to Creative's compliance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement and the terms and conditions of any other agreements Creative may have with Curse, for each piece of video content that is displayed in streaming VOD format on Creative's YouTube Properties hereunder, Creative shall be entitled to receive from Curse the lesser of 100% of the YouTube earnings or three dollars ($3.00) for every thousand (1,000) ad supported video views that such video content generates via streaming online VOD distribution."

Any opinions if this is 100% of everything your channel makes OR is it probably also 100% minus certain "fees"?
 
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