Music Copyright, everything about it.

uberdanger

uberdanger

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Allright I've been dealing with copyright and such for a long time now, even before I started Youtube I've had internship with Roosterteeth a very known company.

Today I'm gonna be giving my 2 cents about partnership on Youtube, and which/how much music you can use. Now I believe that 99% of mainstream music is copyrighted, and you can actually use some copyrighted music in your videos, this is how. Before you read any further, do know that if you use something that is copyrighted, the copyright holder has every right to take your video down, however if you're with a network you can and will lose the copyright strike after 6 months.

First of all, stay away from anything that even smells of VEVO. If the artist is on VEVO, then don't even bother. Don't use music from big people, who also happen to have big record companys (Eminem, Shakira and so on)

Second of all, if it's a decently known song (AKA you could ask 5 people, and 1 out of thoose 5 people should know this song.) You absolutely cannot use it, if you can't find another video of it on Youtube (NON-VEVO) Because this means it has been taken down before.

Feel free to use theese songs as background music, you can also use older songs (25 years+) in short succesions (if it's under 10 seconds, Youtube won't pick it up, and noone will deem it as non fair use) By background music, I mean background music to something commentated.

Third of all: Remixes! remixes are a great way of putting music on your channel, since even copyrighted remixes tend to be made by artists who have quite an open policy, and don't strike down on theese things. I have personally used many remixes, and electronic music in general. Many dubstep/house artists hold the copyright and everything, however remember to credit them and they won't mind (remember if you're partnered with a network, your video won't get taken down instantly, you will get a notification that it's possibly copyrighted, if you get this take it down yourself)

Fouth of all: Instrumentals/bit music.
Instrumentals are awesome for background music, and also for doing small parody of songs (not full songs, but if you have some 5-15 second thing in mind) And 8-bit 16-bit or 32-bit music is also awesome, since it never get's taken down for copyright, and people seem to really like it.

Fifth of all, royalty free music.
Allright so if you wanna play it 100% safe, royalty free music. Many of the sites/channels offering theese are scams, and not all of it is great quality.
If anything I will refer you to a Youtube channel which offers great uncopyrighted music (giving credit to the creators is required) The Youtube channel is known as ByeByeCopyright (BBC for short) I can't link in this Forum, however they're easy to find.

They're great, and another great band which creates great royalty free music is LANSDOWNE. They got popularised through the Call of Duty community, and continues to make royalty free music even after being signed, due to the fact that letting people use their music got them big.

I hope my guide to Youtube music helps you, thank you a million times YTTALK for having great scripting. If not for you I would have lost this entire thread, by hitting backspace.
 
This is good "YouTube in reality" advice rather than legal advice. By this I mean you're ignoring the law (for better or worse) in exchange for operating within YouTube's current method of handling copyright. This is great especially in the short term - it lets you use more content and generalize what you can and can't use. In the long term, however, you can run into lots of issues if/when YouTube changes or updates how they handle copyright issues.

Personally I would NOT recommend ever using music from ANY "copyright free" YouTube channel. If you do, make sure you have written permission prior to use (which can be hard to get). Much better to contact independent artists on YouTube in my opinion.

Lastly, this really is not "Copyright: everything about it" --- Please edit to indicate music copyright in the title.
 
Flammy said:
This is good "YouTube in reality" advice rather than legal advice. By this I mean you're ignoring the law (for better or worse) in exchange for operating within YouTube's current method of handling copyright. This is great especially in the short term - it lets you use more content and generalize what you can and can't use. In the long term, however, you can run into lots of issues if/when YouTube changes or updates how they handle copyright issues.

Personally I would NOT recommend ever using music from ANY "copyright free" YouTube channel. If you do, make sure you have written permission prior to use (which can be hard to get). Much better to contact independent artists on YouTube in my opinion.

Lastly, this really is not "Copyright: everything about it" --- Please edit to indicate music copyright in the title.
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I updated the title as you requested, and I agree with your description, I just take a realistic look at music. The way I look at it, I'd rather have a very small chance of being without a partnership for 6 months, than have to use untastefull music, or have to spend many hours finding the music.[DOUBLEPOST=1365717697,1365716934][/DOUBLEPOST]
NewsOfTech said:
How was your internship at roosterteeth and how did you get it?
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Welp it was a 1-week internship as a chef originally, however I arrived and got injured so I chilled with Achievement Hunter guys instead. Ryan and Jack were good at explaning copyrights to me.
 
(remember if you're partnered with a network, your video won't get taken down instantly, you will get a notification that it's possibly copyrighted, if you get this take it down yourself)
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Sorry, this is wrong. When a copyright holder files a legal DMCA notice to YouTube, they will remove the materiel in question and place a strike against the user. No questions asked policy (as required by law).

however if you're with a network you can and will lose the copyright strike after 6 months.
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With or without a Network, a strike will expire after 6 months from the knowledge date so long as you complete Copyright School. If you received a strike prior to January this year, a strike may expire after 6 months or last longer.

Networks don't give you special privileges against YouTube's copyright policy
 
Flammy said:
This is good "YouTube in reality" advice rather than legal advice. By this I mean you're ignoring the law (for better or worse) in exchange for operating within YouTube's current method of handling copyright. This is great especially in the short term - it lets you use more content and generalize what you can and can't use. In the long term, however, you can run into lots of issues if/when YouTube changes or updates how they handle copyright issues.

Personally I would NOT recommend ever using music from ANY "copyright free" YouTube channel. If you do, make sure you have written permission prior to use (which can be hard to get). Much better to contact independent artists on YouTube in my opinion.

Lastly, this really is not "Copyright: everything about it" --- Please edit to indicate music copyright in the title.
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Probably the best post here. A lot of uberdanger's post is about skirting the line, and some of it will get you denied from networks. Here are some of the things that you shouldn't do.


uberdanger said:
Third of all: Remixes! remixes are a great way of putting music on your channel, since even copyrighted remixes tend to be made by artists who have quite an open policy, and don't strike down on theese things. I have personally used many remixes, and electronic music in general. Many dubstep/house artists hold the copyright and everything, however remember to credit them and they won't mind (remember if you're partnered with a network, your video won't get taken down instantly, you will get a notification that it's possibly copyrighted, if you get this take it down yourself)
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uberdanger said:
Fouth of all: Instrumentals/bit music.
Instrumentals are awesome for background music, and also for doing small parody of songs (not full songs, but if you have some 5-15 second thing in mind) And 8-bit 16-bit or 32-bit music is also awesome, since it never get's taken down for copyright, and people seem to really like it.
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Remixes are still copyright under the original music creator and are still copyright infringing.
Even if you copy content and do not intend to be infringing copyright, that does not mean it is any less infringing. Under US law and all signatories of the Berne convention, remixes would be a "derivative work," and publishing that work would be a copyright violation. A “derivative work” is a work based upon one or more pre-existing works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a “derivative work”. (a) The subject matter of copyright as specified by section 102 includes compilations and derivative works, but protection for a work employing preexisting material in which copyright subsists does not extend to any part of the work in which such material has been used unlawfully. (b) The copyright in a compilation or derivative work extends only to the material contributed by the author of such work, as distinguished from the preexisting material employed in the work, and does not imply any exclusive right in the preexisting material. The copyright in such work is independent of, and does not affect or enlarge the scope, duration, ownership, or subsistence of, any copyright protection in the preexisting material. - www(dot)law(dot)cornell(dot)edu/uscode/text/17/103

A typical example of a derivative work received for registration in the Copyright Office is one that is primarily a new work but incorporates some previously published material. This previously published material makes the work a derivative work under the copyright law. To be copyrightable, a derivative work must be different enough from the original to be regarded as a "new work" or must contain a substantial amount of new material. Making minor changes or additions of little substance to a preexisting work will not qualify the work as a new version for copyright purposes. The new material must be original and copyrightable in itself. Titles, short phrases, and format, for example, are not copyrightable.

You will get denied from networks for unlicensed remixes
uberdanger said:
Fifth of all, royalty free music.
Allright so if you wanna play it 100% safe, royalty free music. Many of the sites/channels offering theese are scams, and not all of it is great quality.
If anything I will refer you to a Youtube channel which offers great uncopyrighted music (giving credit to the creators is required) The Youtube channel is known as ByeByeCopyright (BBC for short) I can't link in this Forum, however they're easy to find.
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The ByeByeCopyright channel DOES NOT USE completely uncopyrighted music. There are a lot of music on that channel that is unverifiable as to whether or not the music is royalty free and I can tell you that trusting a YouTuber that has no licensing displayed as a link (from the original artist) will result in a network denial.
 
Arthur King said:
Probably the best post here. A lot of uberdanger's post is about skirting the line, and some of it will get you denied from networks. Here are some of the things that you shouldn't do.
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The ByeByeCopyright channel DOES NOT USE completely uncopyrighted music. There are a lot of music on that channel that is unverifiable as to whether or not the music is royalty free and I can tell you that trusting a YouTuber that has no licensing displayed as a link (from the original artist) will result in a network denial.
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Thanks for both of those. As I said before, copyright free music on youtube often isn't. Don't put your account in peril over their stupid keyword/marketing gimmick. I am not super familiar with ByeBye's stuff, but that is definitely the trend.
 
uberdanger said:
Allright I've been dealing with copyright and such for a long time now, even before I started Youtube I've had internship with Roosterteeth a very known company.

Today I'm gonna be giving my 2 cents about partnership on Youtube, and which/how much music you can use. Now I believe that 99% of mainstream music is copyrighted, and you can actually use some copyrighted music in your videos, this is how. Before you read any further, do know that if you use something that is copyrighted, the copyright holder has every right to take your video down, however if you're with a network you can and will lose the copyright strike after 6 months.

First of all, stay away from anything that even smells of VEVO. If the artist is on VEVO, then don't even bother. Don't use music from big people, who also happen to have big record companys (Eminem, Shakira and so on)

Second of all, if it's a decently known song (AKA you could ask 5 people, and 1 out of thoose 5 people should know this song.) You absolutely cannot use it, if you can't find another video of it on Youtube (NON-VEVO) Because this means it has been taken down before.

Feel free to use theese songs as background music, you can also use older songs (25 years+) in short succesions (if it's under 10 seconds, Youtube won't pick it up, and noone will deem it as non fair use) By background music, I mean background music to something commentated.

Third of all: Remixes! remixes are a great way of putting music on your channel, since even copyrighted remixes tend to be made by artists who have quite an open policy, and don't strike down on theese things. I have personally used many remixes, and electronic music in general. Many dubstep/house artists hold the copyright and everything, however remember to credit them and they won't mind (remember if you're partnered with a network, your video won't get taken down instantly, you will get a notification that it's possibly copyrighted, if you get this take it down yourself)

Fouth of all: Instrumentals/bit music.
Instrumentals are awesome for background music, and also for doing small parody of songs (not full songs, but if you have some 5-15 second thing in mind) And 8-bit 16-bit or 32-bit music is also awesome, since it never get's taken down for copyright, and people seem to really like it.

Fifth of all, royalty free music.
Allright so if you wanna play it 100% safe, royalty free music. Many of the sites/channels offering theese are scams, and not all of it is great quality.
If anything I will refer you to a Youtube channel which offers great uncopyrighted music (giving credit to the creators is required) The Youtube channel is known as ByeByeCopyright (BBC for short) I can't link in this Forum, however they're easy to find.

They're great, and another great band which creates great royalty free music is LANSDOWNE. They got popularised through the Call of Duty community, and continues to make royalty free music even after being signed, due to the fact that letting people use their music got them big.

I hope my guide to Youtube music helps you, thank you a million times YTTALK for having great scripting. If not for you I would have lost this entire thread, by hitting backspace.
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I missed this awesome post

I have some questions
Isn't there any way to upload remixes(that I made) on Youtube
There must be some way because I have encountered some channels having those remixes of big artists and they are there fron 1 or 2 years...
Some way?
 
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