[LONG] What is actually allowed regarding Policy with music?

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Triforce

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Hey again YTTalk.

I will try keep this thread as short as possible.

I share some music on my channel and I always check this page before even trying to use a song: youtube.com/music_policies

IF the song isn't on the Music Policy page so will I go to Twitter and ask them for permission and if I don't get a respond I'll try to email, If still no response so will I simply ignore a certain song.

Now I found multiple songs on the Music Policy page on Youtube and I shared them on my channel as I thought this was correct information when it says this.

In this directory you will find songs and the policies that copyright holders have entered.
AND
You can use the copyrighted content in your video, but ads might appear on your video.
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So when it says that my brain tells me 'It's okay to use this song but ads from the music holder will appear on the video' (Which is fine for me as I don't make money on Youtube!)

Recently (2.5 weeks ago) I got an strike from a company named 'Grayzone' which is a copyright agency that take down copyrighted material and then send bills to the companys.

The first song I got taken down was

Snoop Dogg & Wiz Khalifa - Young, Wild and Free ft. Bruno Mars
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This song has the status on the copyright policy page on Youtube as
'You can use the copyrighted content in your video, but ads might appear on your video.'

I quickly disputed the strike and wrote that the publisher (WMG) has putten the policy that we can share this song but ads will appear on the video and that Grayzone took this down my mistake / Didn't know about the policy page on Youtube.

After 10 work days so did my strike get removed as they never replied to the dispute case.

1 Day after this they sent another strike on another video that has the exact same copyright policy status on the Youtube page.

I have disputed this one too explaining everything once again and this time I also sent Warner Music Group emails explaining the situation and what they think about this and regarding the Music policy page on Youtube (Since Warner Music Group WMG has added the policy 'In this directory you will find songs and the policies that copyright holders have entered.')

I don't expect to get an answer from them but atleast I sent them an email.

My question now is, Am I completely wrong in this situation or is Grayzone abusing their 'power' to takedown smaller videos because if they do that so can they send bills over to WMG that they have to pay?

No takedowns has been by Warner Music Group themself, Always from Grayzone directly.

I also sent numerous emails to Grayzone asking about the situation but they refuse to reply to any emails.

Grayzone also DMCA removed a video from the channel 'Trap City' (7million subscribers) with the song I had used above: ID: C2VPl9LtKt4 but they quickly got it restored.

I removed my video directly after the strike got retracted as I don't want to get another one.

I have only had this problem with Grayzone, no other publisher and I have been doing this for months now since I suppose that the Music policy page is correct information (Says we can use a song = we can use it)

Some people might say 'Contact the music label before you want to use a song', This is multiple weeks process and you probably wont even get a response from them, and if that was the case, is there any meaning to have this page then? youtube.com/music_policies

Thanks for readong
 
I believe YouTube paid a lot of money for blanket licenses to have that music policies page. Companies who are taking down videos just because they can fill out a form and click a button are in the wrong, imo. Youtube has made it very easy to take down videos, which is both good and bad depending on the situation.

The tricky thing with the music policies page is that they can change whenever the publisher decides to no longer allow YouTube to have a blanket license for their songs. As soon as they pull their song, then videos can be subjected to strikes (although, it would be nice if YouTube would/could give some sort of notice about potential changes....)... But if the Music Policy hasn't changed, and if it exists in the database, then I'd say the best thing to do would be to continue to dispute the strikes, or to avoid using copyrighted material in videos. =/
 
KatyAdelson said:
I believe YouTube paid a lot of money for blanket licenses to have that music policies page. Companies who are taking down videos just because they can fill out a form and click a button are in the wrong, imo. Youtube has made it very easy to take down videos, which is both good and bad depending on the situation.

The tricky thing with the music policies page is that they can change whenever the publisher decides to no longer allow YouTube to have a blanket license for their songs. As soon as they pull their song, then videos can be subjected to strikes (although, it would be nice if YouTube would/could give some sort of notice about potential changes....)... But if the Music Policy hasn't changed, and if it exists in the database, then I'd say the best thing to do would be to continue to dispute the strikes, or to avoid using copyrighted material in videos. =/
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I totally understand that IF a publisher / Label switches policy on the page and THEN send out DMCA takedowns so would I be 100% okay with that as their policy have changed.

But when they still have the same policy on the Youtube policy page then some third party agency that send out takedowns to then get paid is just wrong in my eyes. I win the disputes and they refuse to answer to them and they probably can't answer to them either as what they are doing is wrong, But it's still an annoying process to have a strike on the channel for 10+ work days[DOUBLEPOST=1491856303,1491848026][/DOUBLEPOST]I am not allowed to edit my post above, so here is what I wrote:

EDIT #1: I actually emailed Youtube themself on their copyright email to ask for advice, I didn't expect to get a reply from them but they replied within 24 hours!

They basically redirected me to the Youtube music policy page (The one I linked above).

Which means all these copyright strikes from Grayzone is a copyfraud because 'THEY CAN DO IT' because a lot of people (I bet) wont fight the dispute so Grayzone makes money on it.
 
I have no idea how this works. I made a video with Stevie Wonder songs in the background. At first, YouTube preventing me from monetizing that video, then one day, I was looking through some of my others and saw that the restriction had gone away. I never said a thing, so I have no idea what happened, with whom, and why they changed their minds. SMFH
 
They just sent me another copyright on a song with same policy, these people are abusing the system because they make money doing it, Is there anything I can do or just keep disputing them (I have won everyone since the policy page is correct)
 
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