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50% of $100 its more than 80% of $55... and gross mean before youtube cut the taxes, otherwise it would be "net revenue"
 
DM Pranks said:
50% of $100 its more than 80% of $55... and gross mean before youtube cut the taxes, otherwise it would be "net revenue"
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What on earth are you talking about? YouTube ALWAYS takes 45% first, meaning that in your example Bent Pixels 50% would be of 55$ thus making it $27.50 which is far less than zoomins 80%. The 50% and 80% are both of the same pot of money , I'll give you an example for both networks:

You earn 100$ Gross revenue with Zoomin tv, YouTube takes 45% leaving you with 55$ , Zoomin TV then take 20% leaving you with ($55 x 0.8) = $44

You earn 100$ Gross with Bent Pixels, YouTube takes 45% leaving you with $55, Bent Pixels then take 50% leaving you with ($55 x 0.5) = $27.5
 
DM Pranks said:
50% of $100 its more than 80% of $55... and gross mean before youtube cut the taxes, otherwise it would be "net revenue"
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Just to confuse you further. Gross and Net are not exclusive terms to taxes and YouTube. In accounting terms, they simply mean before deductions and after deductions. In the YouTube calculation you can technically have two gross values and two net values depending on whether you're talking about the before YouTube cut or after, since another cut is yet to be made that is completely separate from the network.

However, I would suggest that giving network monetization advice should hinge on a greater understanding of financial matters than has been currently displayed. We are all fleeced by YouTube equally, whether with a network or not.
 
MattZ said:
What on earth are you talking about? YouTube ALWAYS takes 45% first, meaning that in your example Bent Pixels 50% would be of 55$ thus making it $27.50 which is far less than zoomins 80%. The 50% and 80% are both of the same pot of money , I'll give you an example for both networks:

You earn 100$ Gross revenue with Zoomin tv, YouTube takes 45% leaving you with 55$ , Zoomin TV then take 20% leaving you with ($55 x 0.8) = $44

You earn 100$ Gross with Bent Pixels, YouTube takes 45% leaving you with $55, Bent Pixels then take 50% leaving you with ($55 x 0.5) = $27.5
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I think he thinks the 80/20 split is network/user. In that case he is correct, a user getting 50/50 is better than 80/20
 
Vloggingrandom said:
I think he thinks the 80/20 split is network/user. In that case he is correct, a user getting 50/50 is better than 80/20
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What? YouTube takes its % first and then the network takes its %, the 50% Bent Pixels offer is 30% lower than the 80% zoomin tv offer, both are %'s of revenue after youtubes cut. Not sure how he thinks getting 50% is better than getting 80%..? no matter what network you are with YouTube takes its 45% first.
 
MattZ said:
What? YouTube takes its % first and then the network takes its %, the 50% Bent Pixels offer is 30% lower than the 80% zoomin tv offer, both are %'s of revenue after youtubes cut. Not sure how he thinks getting 50% is better than getting 80%..? no matter what network you are with YouTube takes its 45% first.
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Working out the numbers, the break even point between the two networks would require Bent Pixels to have a CPM 37.5% higher than Zoomin for the partner to earn the same amount. :) Which while possible, is unlikely in an averaging situation. heh
 
Tarmack said:
Working out the numbers, the break even point between the two networks would require Bent Pixels to have a CPM 37.5% higher than Zoomin for the partner to earn the same amount. :) Which while possible, is unlikely in an averaging situation. heh
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Thanks for that information. Yep if you took 2 identical channels with the same demographics etc. and had one at Bent Pixels & one at Zoomin TV I'd say its extremely unlikely for there to be a 37.5% difference between the CPM's in either direction.
 
No not getting 80%, getting 20%= network gets 80% out of the split. Idk how else I could try to clarify it. Okay let's sa there is a box of pizza, if you split it between two people 50/50 it'd be a crappier split for an 80/20 split ( the user being the 20%)
I'm even confused now lol.
 
Vloggingrandom said:
No not getting 80%, getting 20%= network gets 80% out of the split. Idk how else I could try to clarify it. Okay let's sa there is a box of pizza, if you split it between two people 50/50 it'd be a crappier split for an 80/20 split ( the user being the 20%)
I'm even confused now lol.
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No, the 80/20 Zoomin split is 80% channel, 20% network. Just like the 60/40 RPM is 60% channel, 40% network, or the 70/30 Fullscreen is 70% channel, 30% network.

A 50/50 is just halfzies.

(Source: I run a Zoomin Proprietary Network)
 
Yes I know that I'm saying that Dm might of thought it was the other way around, that's all I was pointing out. I give up, forget it.
 
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