Why Do People Insist On Trying To "Buck" The Law?

[UKHypnotist]

Every once in a while I get a notice that I haven't been to YYTalk in a while so why don't I come back and join the conversation? Well I do, and after about an hour of cruising the various forums I come to the Copyright and Legal section. What I see here is part of the reason my visits are so infrequent.

Every third or fourth thread, is someone either asking why their video was flagged for obvious copyright violation, or even worse: someone asking how to get around or avoid being flagged for using copyrighted material. In other words people who are blatantly and intentionally performing premeditated Intellectual Property Theft and in most cases, trying to monetize same.

For these intentional violators, I have one question...

Suppose you were a musician with a song to sing and sell, an artist whose work should be sold through a gallery, or a videographer of such talent that a publishing house like Disney, Sony or National Geographic wanted to put your work before millions of people.

Now some YouTuber comes and takes your content, doesn't compensate you one single penny for your hard work, and proceeds to make money from it; in fact this YouTuber's video goes viral and makes him or her thousands of monetary units of whatever country they live in.

In these shoes...how do you feel?

 

[Crook56]

They should be banned for asking such questions. I like that I am able to use copyright material and the makers get ad revenue from my video (or atleast I hope they do). I would never want to betray the trust of the content makers.

 

[jutuber]

i feel very bad ....

 

[Uncivilized Elk]

I can see somebody asking to get around copyright material for the simple reason that Content ID and the DMCA dispute system is pretty busted (I made a thread about it just recently with my experience).

Something can be a legitimate review/commentary that clearly falls under fair use, but you will have to dispute it tooth and nail for sometimes months, and even then you may still not get full control of your video and get stuck right back into the same cycle (and I've heard of people who cleared their strike, get another strike for the same video, clear it again, and then once again get a strike. That's such BS!).

I can see people asking for such cases how they can get around Content ID. Now as to what is commonly asked about though - I have no idea, I'm new, and I haven't looked through all the backlogs.
Just saying the question isn't inherently for nefarious purposes.

 

[UKHypnotist]

I can see somebody asking to get around copyright material for the simple reason that Content ID and the DMCA dispute system is pretty busted (I made a thread about it just recently with my experience).

Something can be a legitimate review/commentary that clearly falls under fair use, but you will have to dispute it tooth and nail for sometimes months, and even then you may still not get full control of your video and get stuck right back into the same cycle (and I've heard of people who cleared their strike, get another strike for the same video, clear it again, and then once again get a strike. That's such BS!).

I can see people asking for such cases how they can get around Content ID. Now as to what is commonly asked about though - I have no idea, I'm new, and I haven't looked through all the backlogs.
Just saying the question isn't inherently for nefarious purposes.

I understand that it isn't always for nefarious purposes. I am talking about the obvious times that it is.

I myself have gotten hit with Content ID claims on my main channel and the problem when I get hit is the match isn't valid to begin with.

I'm an experimental musician, among other hobbies. I started creating my own music because I was spending far too much on royalty-free assets in general. I don't get hit constantly, but I do get hit enough to make it highly annoying, considering most tracks I "cut" just before I make the video they will be heard as the soundtrack of.

The system is definitely broken in some ways, and not used properly by content owners in other ways. But as with any system, there will be abusers on both sides of the fence.

 

[Tarmack]

Personally, I would like to see the moderators just outright lock/delete threads asking how to "get around" copyright issues. But YTTalk is very much a volunteer mod team, so I don't hold anything against them for potentially not having the resources to do it.

 

[UKHypnotist]

Personally, I would like to see the moderators just outright lock/delete threads asking how to "get around" copyright issues. But YTTalk is very much a volunteer mod team, so I don't hold anything against them for potentially not having the resources to do it.

Nor do I hold anything against the mods; in fact I think they do a dynamite job!

 

[Idec Sdawkminn]

In the scenario you describe, I would feel like it was very unfair that someone used something I created and everyone paid them for it instead of me, especially if they took credit for it.

However, I do blatantly and intentionally perform premeditated intellectual property theft and in most cases, I successfully monetize it, so I suppose I am your target audience. I do not do it to steal viewers from the original content creators. On the contrary, I link to the original video in the description and create a card to it as well. The more people view the original one, the better chance that mine will get views from it. If anything, my videos draw more attention to the original one and people that like mine that had never heard of the original or wouldn't normally watch it might go check it out because they are curious after watching mine. And no one is going to say "I want to listen to 'Let It Go'," find my video, and be satisfied in their search. Yes I monetize mine, but that doesn't take away from the money the original one would make. We just both get paid. I probably shouldn't be monetizing mine, but there is no extra penalty if I do, so I do.

If I was the original content creator in the scenario I describe, I'd probably promote the "parody" channels and it might even influence the type of content I create moving forward to be better compatible with future parodies.

 

[MarkRodriguez2012]

As a reviewer, we should be able to show a little of what exactly we're reviewing, at least for context. Other than that... yeah, that's a grey are for sure.

 

[FoldingNotes]

The copyright enforcement system is pretty crazy, but at least there is some protection. Unfortunately there's a lack of it in other places beyond YouTube.

Copyrights must be repected, including the Creative Commons Attributes.