Wasnt sure what area to post this. BBTV/TGN wanting to leave

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Hi All

Its been 2 years since I joined TGN and from early on I realised it was such a mistake. I have tried to leave and get a away out but had no luck.

Now I am 2 years 9 days over my contact with them they are still not releasing me. I was told that at the 2 year mark I could unlink my channel and we part ways..

this I did want was expecting within 48 hours I would be free. How wrong was I.. 9 days later and many tickets going unanswered I am still with TGN.

Anyone know how to move this alone ? or what happens to any revenue between the 16th June and the day they release my channel ?

Thanks for any advice and help.

John
 
Maybe you can get in contact with YouTube support? I have heard that they work with YouTubers in these types of situations. Also, if you are LEGALLY allowed to leave their network, then just start uploading your content without them. They can't keep you in a contract without your approval to renew.
 
Maybe you can get in contact with YouTube support? I have heard that they work with YouTubers in these types of situations. Also, if you are LEGALLY allowed to leave their network, then just start uploading your content without them. They can't keep you in a contract without your approval to renew.

Thanks for that. I will contact YT support. In the meantime. How do I upload content without them ?? It is the Customer ID tag I remove ?

Thanks
John[DOUBLEPOST=1466853396,1466778242][/DOUBLEPOST]Well I contacted YT Support and I got a very nice but useless email back. :([DOUBLEPOST=1466854270][/DOUBLEPOST]If I was was to start a new channel is there anything stopping me from taking my videos down from my current channel and moving them to my new channel ?
 
Your contract with the network should outline the steps required to leave. Many had 30-day notice requirements back then. That means that you had to notify them outside of 30 days of the end of your agreement. If don't do so, many contracts have roll-over clauses.

That means, if you didn't give proper notice, they can re-up you for the term outlined in the agreement.
 
To leave any MCN these days on Youtube you shouldn't have to contact the MCN to leave as long as you are outside of contract. If you go on to channel>status and features you should be able to unlink there and it will send a notification to them saying that you are leaving. It will take 30 days though. It should be under account status next to your channel name. It should literally just say your MCN and unlink.

At least this is how it is meant to work. I am far from an expert on such matters.
 
At least this is how it is meant to work. I am far from an expert on such matters.

YouTube does not get involved in legal affairs between two parties which have a legal agreement between them. If the MCN followed all of the agreed upon terms of the agreement, then that is what will hold up in a court of law. If the creator didn't keep an eye on the terms that they agreed to, that is their fault.
 
This stuff is why I am terrified of networks. I am sure there are good ones out there but I am going alright by myself. I hope you can sort it out man I would be really upset if I was in your shoes. I would suggest keep trying to get out because losing your channel would really suck but I have no idea with this stuff
 
YouTube does not get involved in legal affairs between two parties which have a legal agreement between them. If the MCN followed all of the agreed upon terms of the agreement, then that is what will hold up in a court of law. If the creator didn't keep an eye on the terms that they agreed to, that is their fault.
It actually does though. The method above is exactly how I left my MCN whilst out of contract. Youtube hates MCN's and would love to get rid of them completely. What you are mentioning though is court of law, which I didn't mention at all. He sounds like he is out of contract, if not then they should have replied to him by now to honour their contract. There are 2 sides to every agreement and if one of the terms of the MCN was that they should give support when needed, then this hasn't been upheld. In this country at least, I know that is enough to get out of a contract. We have really good contract laws in the UK and Europe though and I know that the USA's are a lot less considerate when it comes to contracts (every law in America is anti consumer and anti little guy, it is disgusting how few rights they have) but Youtube really does hate MCN's and do have a lot of rules against them.
 
Youtube hates MCN's and would love to get rid of them completely.

I'm not sure where you get your information but YouTube only has issues with MCN's that skirt the rules or don't provide the service that they claim that they are providing.

As for the OP, he did not state that he requested to leave in a timely manner. He only stated that it's been 2 years and he wants out.
 
I'm not sure where you get your information but YouTube only has issues with MCN's that skirt the rules or don't provide the service that they claim that they are providing.

As for the OP, he did not state that he requested to leave in a timely manner. He only stated that it's been 2 years and he wants out.
They never have. I thought that was a well known thing. That's why they have so many rules on it.

Another note, stop quoting one thing, it just makes you look like you are bending my argument to your will and really grinds my tits. Especially when you go on to say more and especially when I made an important point that you have skimmed over. He said he tried to contact them and they haven't replied to him. He's said that he has contacted AS HE WAS TOLD TO DO SO, he has said they haven't replied so I genuinely do not see where you are coming from. Is it an inability to read? I'm confused now. He clearly states that in his first post. Sounds to me like he has upheld his contract, and we have no information to say any different. This would be easier away from American rules as rolling contracts are a thing of the past everywhere else and we have options to cancel a contract we have signed in to between 14 days and 28 days, but American law is archaic. Either way, we have no information on it being a rolling contract so it would be wrong for us to assume that there was a rolling contract as all the details we have provided are the fact he had to contact after 2 years to leave and has done that.

Having a quick look into it through Google though, TGN does not operate on a rolling contract . In fact they don't do lock in contracts anymore either. So if he does what it says below then he can have no argument.

Anyways for OP without any judgement on you or your channel, straight from Youtube.

"If you're an Affiliate channel and have fulfilled your contractual obligations to your MCN and want to unlink from your MCN content owner, you can request to leave by clicking on the Request to unlink button in Channel Settings in Creator Studio.

Important: If you leave an MCN, you need set up monetisation and link your account to AdSense to continue earning money and getting paid."

Exactly as I stated.
It goes on to say

"Best practices for MCNs
All MCNs are responsible for providing value to their creators by following YouTube's best practices, including:

  • Avoiding spammy, misleading language to recruit channels to join an MCN.
  • Clearly explaining in a contract the services and levels of support provided.
  • Acting in an honest and transparent way with respect to services offered and contractual obligations.
  • Onboarding and releasing channels in line with their contracts.
If an MCN doesn't adhere to these best practices, they may lose account features and monetisation. If you believe that an MCN is not following YouTube's policies, contact the Creator Support team."

So the best way to try and get round it and make it a Youtube issue is to contact them saying they are not upholding Youtubes best practices as they aren't responding. This is not acting in a transparent manner. Also they are not releasing your channel in line with your contract, so link this to Youtube and make them realise it is in their own guidelines.

I would send a copy of this to your MCN too to make them realise you have took it further. Most MCN's don't believe you will do and do not want the trouble so it is kind of like strong arming them. They advertise as the best support on Youtube and 24/7 support so they aren't being transparent.

Source site - support.google.com/youtube/answer/2737059?hl=en-GB
 
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