Racist? Is This Racist?

Racist?

  • No, comedy must cross lines

  • Yes, its overly stereotypical

  • I dont know, id have to see the movie...


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Be Kind: Please Rewind
Ive been selected to enter a huge film festival! Which is a huge honor... Anyways!

I plan on doing a comedy movie.
Long story short, its going on youtube after it premiers in December

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There is a Mexican inspired character - straight out of a western movie. This character nearly wipes out all four of our main heroes by being so strong. He eventually traps everyone but one inside a bag of tortilla chips.
But the question is, is his dialogue racist? Let ignore the fact that this character is wearing a sombrero and a rainbow colored cape.
When the fight scene ( which is done in a climatic anime style ) starts, the character, to accent his attacks and dodges, says things like: Senior, Burrito, Taco, Salsa Ect...
Its intended to be funny, as you could do a whole lot while saying the word "SALSA!" as you Hollywood style dismember the main characters arm, with a cliche, anime slow motion, slash of a sword.

The character however is not just something thrown into the film for no reason. The character is referred to as having a hard life, because people ignore Mexicans or generalize them so harshly they exclude them from things like movies where instead a black person is the first to die.
This conversation resonates with one of the main characters who, for the entire film has been unable to do anything but complain about how hard their life is with very short lines such as " My life is an terrible life.." almost making the character jealous as he attacks the questionable character.
In the end the character in question lowers his guard on purpose to let the depressed character win, after seeing how much it meant to him to be the most depressed character.
*But comes back later*

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I think its hilarious, I cant really explain it without posting a 22 page script here. But I see it as harmless, Is that just me? Is this discus-tingly racist? Or am I jumping a gun? I tried googling images of "Racist mexican jokes" and I found that almost 80% of them were funny, only thinking the wrong ones were ones that focused on family, or poverty.

I then googled the same but with images of "Racist Black people jokes" only found that about 40% of them were funny. I found a hate for the ones that profiled as criminals, poverty, and family, as well as ones that talk about how ugly a black person is.

Now I have to think about myself... Am I racist? I can say I've never mocked or excluded someone on their skin tone or background. But the googling pictures and my response in my head...

Furthermore images of "Racist white people jokes" less than 1% of them were actually mocking white people all of them were targeting black people OR were actually making fun of black people.



What do you think?
What race are you? ( You do not need to answer this but I find it helpful if you do )
I am mixed, black and white But people think I am Mexican or Hawaiian.
 
Ive been selected to enter a huge film festival! Which is a huge honor... Anyways!

I plan on doing a comedy movie.
Long story short, its going on youtube after it premiers in December

%%%%%ON TOPIC%%%%%%

There is a Mexican inspired character - straight out of a western movie. This character nearly wipes out all four of our main heroes by being so strong. He eventually traps everyone but one inside a bag of tortilla chips.
But the question is, is his dialogue racist? Let ignore the fact that this character is wearing a sombrero and a rainbow colored cape.
When the fight scene ( which is done in a climatic anime style ) starts, the character, to accent his attacks and dodges, says things like: Senior, Burrito, Taco, Salsa Ect...
Its intended to be funny, as you could do a whole lot while saying the word "SALSA!" as you Hollywood style dismember the main characters arm, with a cliche, anime slow motion, slash of a sword.

The character however is not just something thrown into the film for no reason. The character is referred to as having a hard life, because people ignore Mexicans or generalize them so harshly they exclude them from things like movies where instead a black person is the first to die.
This conversation resonates with one of the main characters who, for the entire film has been unable to do anything but complain about how hard their life is with very short lines such as " My life is an terrible life.." almost making the character jealous as he attacks the questionable character.
In the end the character in question lowers his guard on purpose to let the depressed character win, after seeing how much it meant to him to be the most depressed character.
*But comes back later*

/TOPIC

I think its hilarious, I cant really explain it without posting a 22 page script here. But I see it as harmless, Is that just me? Is this discus-tingly racist? Or am I jumping a gun? I tried googling images of "Racist mexican jokes" and I found that almost 80% of them were funny, only thinking the wrong ones were ones that focused on family, or poverty.

I then googled the same but with images of "Racist Black people jokes" only found that about 40% of them were funny. I found a hate for the ones that profiled as criminals, poverty, and family, as well as ones that talk about how ugly a black person is.

Now I have to think about myself... Am I racist? I can say I've never mocked or excluded someone on their skin tone or background. But the googling pictures and my response in my head...

Furthermore images of "Racist white people jokes" less than 1% of them were actually mocking white people all of them were targeting black people OR were actually making fun of black people.



What do you think?
What race are you? ( You do not need to answer this but I find it helpful if you do )
I am mixed, black and white But people think I am Mexican or Hawaiian.
I dont think it racist tho. I am mixed as well, black and white, but alot of people think i am from the middle east.
 
I dont think it racist tho.
Another debate ive had on this subject lead to the discovery that poking fun at a stereotype isnt racist unless its meant to mock that race.
However im thinking this will end up triggering someone anyways with all the things donald trump has said.
Im going to move to changing this around.
 
If somebody gets offended by a racist joke...eh, well, they're a p***y honestly.

Comedy has to cross lines sometimes...you cringe a little, but then think about the joke, and go "ah, I see his point!" Its like the people who went apeshit over the Harambe dank memes....its like, calm down people...its JUST a joke.

As for you you, it's not really that offensive honestly; you're definitely fine.
 
Another debate ive had on this subject lead to the discovery that poking fun at a stereotype isnt racist unless its meant to mock that race.
However im thinking this will end up triggering someone anyways with all the things donald trump has said.
Im going to move to changing this around.

It´s stereotypical maybe, But I don´t think it´s racist!
 
There will always be people being offended by anything, playing with stereotypes given it's not done with the clear intent to offend is not racist.
 
The Spanish words part might not make very much sense to a Spanish speaker (altho, I'm not a spanish speaker...so.. =/ )... salsa = sauce, and burrito = little donkey, and taco actually has a lot of meanings besides being a food. It can mean a traffic jam, the word for "swearword," when something is a mess..etc. Calling a person a taco is sometimes intended to be an insult to Mexican people. x_x

The part I can imagine people might have an issue with is the idea that the Mexican is the perceived as the villain who is destroying the 4 "heroes." If it could turn around where the Mexican is the superhero defending against 4 supervillians, then it would be a little better. Many stereotypes in Hollyweird revolve around Mexicans being the villain, and that concept skews the public's perception of Mexicans, which makes me sad. =(

But it really depends on how the script is written, and how the video is shot. ^^ I thought I'd point out my point of view based on your initial post. ^^
 
I don't find it to be racist. Only thing I guess that could go wrong is talking about the country or making bad remarks.
 
probably better to do more than one stereotype.
I find punchout Wii (as well as the earlier ones) hilarious and there are stereotypes of so many coutnries and groups in there. BUT they are all really funny characters, and I don't dislike any of them.
they can be enemies while still being very likeable if it's done correctly. and bear in mind punch out is a japanese game and they make fun of their own race in it too, so that always helps if you include yourself as the butt of the joke sometimes too.
 
Its a little racist although it sounds very over the top stereotypical and very slap stick to my liking.
 
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