Question about FireViews and Adsense TOS

Eligible Monster

Eligible Monster

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Okay guys, so browsing these forums and various other sites looking for ways to gain Promotion, I came across Fireviews. Now I've gone through all the websites, all the forums I can find and pretty much everything I could possibly find and from what I've come across is, its very indecisive.

Basically from what I gathered the whole Fireviews is a social website thing seems to be the hot topic. While I understand that there's some jackasses going through it with the intent to just game come subs and junk, there also appears to be somewhat of a legitimate amount of people who watch your videos and give real feedback. Now my question is, how is this ANY different from me posting my videos on Facebook, Twitter, or even the signature right here. You have a option to watch my video or not watch it, and you do the same thing on Fireviews.

I'm not arguing actually using Fireviews, my question is, is it actually against TOS for Adsense, or is it not. For everyone who says "OMG ITS AGAINST TOS" Not one person has presented proof even in the form of a friend of a friend.

Now for my second question.

Lets for a minute pretend I turn on Fireviews, and let it roll. But I haven't even turned on Adsense yet. 1-6 months from now I were to go and turn on Adsense and completely remove myself from somehing like Fireviews. Would my previous activity before turning on Adsense be used against me? (This of course would be assuming that Fireviews was in fact without the shadow of a doubt agaisnt TOS).

Thanks guys, I know its a wall of text, but since Fireviews is view for view with the option to skip. It just seems like if any of those sites were gonna be legit it would be this one which is why I'm curious, but hell I could be completely off and its back to postingin reddit and getting 10 views before I'm downvoted off the page.
 
i checked this out.. and in my opinion i'm not sure...
i think i looked at maybe 2o videos, and some of them i went and watched them on youtube, but many of them, i just muted it and let it play if whilst chatting on FB i'm honest. And most people just choose 'cool' without even listening to the video, but you're right some people do give genuine feedback.

MY ahhh moment came when i realise they add a tag to your video and add to the description... so I'd never do it again. I wouldn't risk it, personally :p
 
Ya I did try it briefly so far with about 30 views, I noticed the tag and they also add something to your description that says Viewed on Fireviews. both of which were easily removed. But thats what is making me paranoid. If this could actually make it so I could never use Adsense it leaves evidence everywhere that you used it. BUT doesnt that also mean that everyone who used it would basically be banned as the evidence is RIGHT there?
 
Eligible Monster said:
Okay guys, so browsing these forums and various other sites looking for ways to gain Promotion, I came across Fireviews. Now I've gone through all the websites, all the forums I can find and pretty much everything I could possibly find and from what I've come across is, its very indecisive.

Basically from what I gathered the whole Fireviews is a social website thing seems to be the hot topic. While I understand that there's some jackasses going through it with the intent to just game come subs and junk, there also appears to be somewhat of a legitimate amount of people who watch your videos and give real feedback. Now my question is, how is this ANY different from me posting my videos on Facebook, Twitter, or even the signature right here. You have a option to watch my video or not watch it, and you do the same thing on Fireviews.
The hot button issue here is the exchange of currency. Which can be bought rather than earned. The saving grace, is that none of these interactions with your videos can exceed the rate of human interaction. That's the fine line on the YouTube T.O.S. that FireViews tends to lean on the side of fair play.

I'm not arguing actually using Fireviews, my question is, is it actually against TOS for Adsense, or is it not. For everyone who says "OMG ITS AGAINST TOS" Not one person has presented proof even in the form of a friend of a friend.
I joined this forum to find validation of the legitimacy of Fireviews, being unaccustomed to the internet I listened the "The Owner of FireViews" that was trolling the forum and took our precious channel for a test drive. Through that site I made friends with Symphonius7 who's an avid YTTalker, the9one8, HarlotsInterrupted, SchizophrenicKen, and Elizabeth Prior. Good thing this isn't the McCarthy Hearings-- I only name that roster because meeting serious producers through those sites is entirely possible.

Now for my second question.

Lets for a minute pretend I turn on Fireviews, and let it roll. But I haven't even turned on Adsense yet. 1-6 months from now I were to go and turn on Adsense and completely remove myself from somehing like Fireviews. Would my previous activity before turning on Adsense be used against me? (This of course would be assuming that Fireviews was in fact without the shadow of a doubt agaisnt TOS).
We have done exactly that, and to date have no strikes against our account.

Thanks guys, I know its a wall of text, but since Fireviews is view for view with the option to skip. It just seems like if any of those sites were gonna be legit it would be this one which is why I'm curious, but hell I could be completely off and its back to postingin reddit and getting 10 views before I'm downvoted off the page.
We're jealous of your Reddit high score, actually. We've gotten all of 7 views, because we're terrible at interneting.
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Simon Johnson said:
MY ahhh moment came when i realise they add a tag to your video and add to the description... so I'd never do it again. I wouldn't risk it, personally
We delete those tags and descriptions instantly, because they screw up our down the rabbit hole video suggestions cue. At least it is not the permanent brand of a blog "As Seen On-ing" one of your videos
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So basically from what your saying it sounds like the big issue is the fact that people can BUY the views instead of earning them. With that being the arguement the question comes in, would people still say NO GO AWAY if this was a completlely view for view service.
 
Technically YouTube is a view for view service. But there's no quantitative incentive on the user side for displaying good ettiquite or common courtesy. Most people, afraid of public speaking, bow out of leaving feedback on a public internet site. Those that chose to are often driven by ulterior (or in the case of promotions-- identical) motives or have Internet Asbergers Syndrome. Which is frighteningly as common as keyboards. Our argument for FireViews has always been that it encourages viewers to behave in the way that YouTube's transparency discourages your viewers from acting naturally.
 
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