I got rejected from IFree Network

alperen420

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I got rejected from IFree Network.They said that i have a bad standing youtube channel due copyright infringments,which none of my videos has copyrighted content.I've surpassed what the network required.This network was all i needed;Wire transfer and 5$ payment threshold.
Anyone else having this issue ?
If so is there any network i can join that has wire transfer and payment threshold below 20$ ?
 
Having looked at your channel I must ask you this: How do you create your videos? When you answer this, I'll tell you whether the network was right or wrong. If they are right, then you need to take down all of the videos you have now and create original content, as no network will accept the channel as it stands now.
 
I make parodies of certain subjects,such as ; ads,cartoon,movies etc. But there is no way that they are copyrighted.
 
I actually don't think your videos can be considered fair use, see the "Parody Is Fair Use, Satire Is Not" thread in the "Copyright, Claims, Strikes & Legal Discussion" section of this forum
 
I make parodies of certain subjects,such as ; ads,cartoon,movies etc. But there is no way that they are copyrighted.
Ok. You've told me what you consider your videos to be but not how you go about making them. I tried to give you a chance to admit to what I was seeing, but you don't want to do this; so I will tell you what you are doing, and why no matter what you say, you can't claim your videos are original content.

You are taking pieces of copyrighted video media; either recorded from TV, or ripped from tape or DVD; and editing them together to make your "parodies". This is not parody, but rather a "video mashup". Even though you have heavily edited them, this doesn't erase the fact that the original material belongs under copyright, to someone else; and you haven't gotten permission or license to use and make derivative works from it from the copyright owner.

Yes there is a way your videos are copyright violations, unless you can prove licensing and commercial rights acquisition: and you must prove both to make money off them from YouTube. Can you? If not, you may forget applying to any network with your content as it stands now.

In addition to all of this, as I replied to your other thread, YouTube will not serve ads for videos on any channel which has less than 10,000 views across all videos the channel contains. Joining a network doesn't change that.

Create some legitimate content, grow your channel until it reaches 10,000 total video views, join the Partner Program through Adsense, as most MCNs will not partner a channel which isn't already a direct YouTube Partner; and try again.

I'm sorry that I can't give you better news than this.
 
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Yes there is a way your videos are copyright violations, unless you can prove licensing and commercial rights acquisition: and you must prove both to make money off them from YouTube. Can you? If not, you may forget applying to any network with your content as it stands now.

First of all, OP was turned down due to copyright strikes on his/her channel, but he claims there are/were none. That's the main subject of this thread, not whether he can or can't upload videos like that.

Second of all, you don't really prove that you have the licensing rights in advance, but rather once your videos received a strike, which you can then dispute (you can dispute them without providing anything anyway, lol, YouTube copyright system ftw...).

And third, fair use is fair use - but there are limitations to how much content he can use in a video. I'm not an expert in this area, so I'd rather not go too much into it, but using copyright content can be OK in certain scenarios.
 
First of all, OP was turned down due to copyright strikes on his/her channel, but he claims there are/were none. That's the main subject of this thread, not whether he can or can't upload videos like that.

Second of all, you don't really prove that you have the licensing rights in advance, but rather once your videos received a strike, which you can then dispute (you can dispute them without providing anything anyway, lol, YouTube copyright system ftw...).

And third, fair use is fair use - but there are limitations to how much content he can use in a video. I'm not an expert in this area, so I'd rather not go too much into it, but using copyright content can be OK in certain scenarios.
I have read this entire thread.

Nowhere did the OP claim he had had a copyright strike; just allow me to quote you what he really said.
.They said that i have a bad standing youtube channel due copyright infringments,which none of my videos has copyrighted content.
In other words, it was the network's review team, not the Content ID system who flagged the OP's channel for copyright infringement; so how could there be no infringements on his channel?.

If you would simply take the time to go to the OP's channel and view the content in question, you would see that none of it meets the criteria for exemption under the Fair Use Doctrine. It has no transformative value, being in most cases, cobbled together mashups of broadcast content complete with the owning network's watermark clearly showing in many cases.

He isn't reviewing or critiquing any of the posted material. The purpose of the posting as he keeps stressing is to earn money and get paid as quickly as possible, thus completely invalidating the Purpose principle: these are clearly unauthorized commercial-intent derivative works unless he can prove both usage, publicity, commercial and rebroadcast licensing rights from the proper owners.

I won't even go over the other two Fair Use factors as the paragraph above would prove bringing the other two in useless in a court of law which is the only place a Fair Use Doctrine test can truly take place. Any sane judge would look at the type and purpose of his use of copyright material and immediately find against him.

From YouTube Terms of Use I quote here:

"7.4 You represent and warrant that you have (and will continue to have during your use of the Service) all necessary licenses, rights, consents, and permissions which are required to enable YouTube to use your Content for the purposes of the provision of the Service by YouTube, and otherwise to use your Content in the manner contemplated by the Service and these Terms."

I asked the OP if he could prove the paragraph above. It doesn't matter if YouTube has placed a strike against his videos or not. If he cannot say yes when asked if he has all of the necessary licenses, rights, consents and permissions required, he is in violation of YouTube's Terms Of Use; and this is the actual reason the network he applied to rejected him, and any other network he applies to without such proof will reject his channel.

Two last things: from the YouTube Help section titled "What type of content can I monetize?"

Guidelines for content that you didn't create:
  • Clear the rights to use and monetise this content on YouTube.
  • Make sure that you understand how copyright works
The "that you didn't create" in the section title refers to source content used, as well as the completed video.

Now, from the section
Can I monetise my video if...
I made a recording from TV, DVD or CD?

Answer:
Although you may have recorded something yourself, the actual creator or author of the underlying content being recorded (e.g. producer of the TV show being displayed on the TV) may hold many of the rights needed to commercially exploit this content.

If you want to monetise your recording of a TV show, DVD or CD, you would need to get explicit written permission from the applicable rights owner of the audio and/or visual elements that you recorded.

So again, it must be asked whether or not the OP has the needed permissions for his content and can prove that.

I do wish that people who have been on YouTube for less than half a decade and are most likely far behind me in experience and knowledge of the responsibilities attached to the creation and publication of what is in effect, online broadcast media, would stop trying to second guess me.

I am 60 years old and I came to YouTube as a creator in 2006; YouTube was just over a year old when I posted my first video.

I've seen all of the changes in both the site interface and Terms of Use from that day until now. I've had to fight for my creator's rights against the likes of firms such as VIACOM International, who tried to take down several videos containing only legally licensed stock footage and my own voice! I once even had to take on the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) itself after they blocked worldwide, an original Public Domain clip from NASA saying it was a piece of a documentary produced by them in 2010.

They had to retract and quickly, when it was pointed out to them that my YouTube video publication preceded the date of first broadcast of their documentary by a full four years!

You'd think that after winning rights fights at that level, I'd know what I'm talking about; wouldn't you?

 
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Thanks for taking time to write such in-depth response, appreciate it - you clearly know what you are talking about! I wasn't even second guessing you, but rather wanted to point out that he doesn't really need to prove anything right now, but rather at the time he gets in trouble (which he eventually will). There are also plenty of other networks that won't do their due diligence and just accept him if channel has no visible copyright strikes. But I have to ask this, what does it matter to you if he's uploading content which he may not have proper written permission for? The best we can do here is advise him what he can or can't do and should or shouldn't do and whether he can actually join a network or not.
 
Thanks for taking time to write such in-depth response, appreciate it - you clearly know what you are talking about! I wasn't even second guessing you, but rather wanted to point out that he doesn't really need to prove anything right now, but rather at the time he gets in trouble (which he eventually will). There are also plenty of other networks that won't do their due diligence and just accept him if channel has no visible copyright strikes. But I have to ask this, what does it matter to you if he's uploading content which he may not have proper written permission for? The best we can do here is advise him what he can or can't do and should or shouldn't do and whether he can actually join a network or not.
I love it that you asked that question, Clam.

Every creator who joins YouTube to present content, and ignores the Terms of Use when creating or uploading, makes it that much harder for those of us who do follow the rules at the end of the day; in similarity to the way theft from stores raises the price of retail goods we buy. The current advertiser boycott is only the most recent example of this. The very first happened when VIACOM International filed a multi-billion dollar lawsuit against the original YouTube site and its owners; claiming punitive damages for hundreds of thousands of pieces of unlicensed copyright media found on the site.

The result? The YouTube we have today. There was no possible way the original owners could successfully fight and win the suit in question; and they didn't have the money that the damages demand would require.

GOOGLE came a-knocking, and the original owners sold YouTube to the search giant, which did have the asset-stock to settle such a claim.

If the advertisers don't come back, YouTube, already considered a bit of a loss-leader in spite of the fact of it being the largest video site and video search engine in the world, may find itself on the "sales stand" again; only this time as twice-damaged goods with lessened value. And channels like the OP's, all the channels which do wholesale uploading of unlicensed broadcast sporting events, all of the Indian channels who think they own the rights to upload the latest Bollywood movies and network newscasts, just because they can record them with their DVRs are all part of the problem.

A metaphor for you...

If someone had put barrels of explosives against the front and back doors of your house, and laid a gunpowder train in a circle so that it could be lit from the middle and both barrel sets would go up simultaneously; severely damaging or destroying your living space, wouldn't you want to stop that before the person could light the match?

The channels with the illegal content are the barrels of explosive; the advertising section of YouTube which is being drained by the advertiser boycott is the powder train. We who are obeying the rules, are living in the house which is the YouTube platform, and YouTube admin is holding the unlit match which is the order to destroy the entire Partner Program and sell off the site, in its hand.

Do you still not care what content your fellow creators are placing on YouTube after reading the metaphor I just presented?
 
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