How Are People Using Theme songs???

[Skizzy]

HI,

I have seen so many channels (Large and small) using theme songs from shows, and clips.
Ie: Channels using both the Simpsons song and video intro.

From what i have searched and found, you can't show a "finger" in your video unless its attached to you or you have permission to do so.

Copyright sucks balls. Big hairy goliath ones. We as creators should be able to use them as long as we credit them in the descipton but of course that doesnt seem to be realty in the world that we live in. Everything seems to be a copyright strike and million dollar lawsuit for a video that profits $1.

Using clips makes videos so much more entertaining. I always link to sources that i got info. from in my videos in the description. But I know that I would probably get a strike if i used any of those types of clips.

Am I missing something? Is there a safe way to use them?

 

[Shakycow]

No, there is no safe way to use them... nor should there be.

You complain about strikes and multi-million dollar lawsuits for a video that earns $1, but what if that video earned $100, $1,000, or even $1,000,000? Simply put, it's both far easier and infinitely more fair to treat everyone the same, no exceptions.

I would also argue that they rarely make videos more entertaining. More often than not, they're used as a crutch and show a lack of originality or creative ability. If you want to use someone's work, it should only make sense that they get properly paid for your use of it.

If they're using copyrighted materials, they either have the proper permissions or, more than likely, haven't been caught yet. Content ID isn't perfect so some things do get by, but, at any given time, they could find themselves with a strike.

 

[Yvelinaa]

If you don't monitise the video, give credit to original soruces of what is used along with stating it's based upon fair use you should be fine?

 

[Idec Sdawkminn]

My whole channel is nothing but theme songs and music videos, but that's just me. I get claims and strikes all the time. It comes with the territory.

 

[subversiveasset]

So, there are actually two problems with copyright infringement and people usually only think to address one of them.

The first problem is attribution. You might think, "Well, OK, then, I'll just put a line in the description saying who created the song and then i should be OK"

But the second problem is compensation. It's not about whether you are making money off of the song so much that you are depriving the copyright owner of money they could have made by providing a substitute source. So, in some ways, posting a song for free is worse -- you are stealing the content and then giving people a way to listen for free.

However, in terms of who gets caught and who doesn't -- most things depend on content ID's automatic match. If a song isn't in content ID or it's not recognized, then there won't be a match, so it's much less likely that action will be taken. (Of course, there are content ID mismatches, and there can be manual copyright claims as well.)

@Idec Sdawkminn 's channel (and wow, how have I never checked that out before, lol) definitely appears to be sampling the songs (which is definitely questionable), buuuuut it changes things just enough that I wouldn't be surprised if a good number of the songs didn't get recognized in content ID. (There are some videos where the original song is played along with the "horror" version...I imagine, this is where the content ID claims hit more often)

 

[Idec Sdawkminn]

@Idec Sdawkminn 's channel (and wow, how have I never checked that out before, lol) definitely appears to be sampling the songs (which is definitely questionable), buuuuut it changes things just enough that I wouldn't be surprised if a good number of the songs didn't get recognized in content ID. (There are some videos where the original song is played along with the "horror" version...I imagine, this is where the content ID claims hit more often)

lol, every music video I post gets claimed. About 1/5 of the ones I dispute get the claims released. Regarding attribution, it's obvious I didn't create the original. That's actually the point and the draw. Regarding compensation, there's no way I'm cutting into the market of the original. If anything, people unfamiliar with the original might go find the original after seeing mine. I don't make the edits to avoid being detected. I make the edits so that my use of the content is for a different purpose than the original and to make sure it can't possibly serve as a replacement source for the original. I've had people at companies tell me that they really like my videos, but they have a responsibility to the artist they represent and are paid to claim and/or take down unapproved uses of their content whether it is fair use or not.