Filing copyright claims rather than claiming a video

markkaz

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@Scapestrato asked me why I file copyright claims on stolen videos rather than claiming the video to get additional revenue.

1. I'm not with a network and I don't have access to Content ID. I don't have a 'claiming' option.

2. Should I join a network to get Content ID? I tried that a couple years ago. I joined Fullscreen. They were supposed to get me Content ID but didn't even start until 6 months into my 1-year contract. Even worse, they weren't working on protecting my most popular videos! They were adding videos to the system that weren't getting any significant views at all.

3. I'd rather not have thieves think that "oh, we can steal his videos because we can grow our channel and get views and subs until he catches us".

I'd rather them have the fear of God that I'm going to file copyright claims and have their channel shut down.
 
4. A good number of my views come from suggested videos, cards, annotations, and from people who go to my channel.

If someone were to watch my video on someone else's channel, even if I were compensated for that view, I would lose any additional views I would likely get if they watched it on my channel.

5. I can't stand people who profit off of other people's work and, historically, the people have reposted my videos have also stolen countless other people's works.

Even if I could 3rd party claim the my videos they've posted, I would rather help get them banned than watch them get a penny from anyone else's work.
 
6. Some networks are complicit with content theft. They are/were knowingly adding channels that clearly had stolen content. They are financially benefiting from this behavior.

To just 'claim' the video sends the message that you can steal it until I catch you. Furthermore, there are no repercussions for the network if I were to just claim the video.

I will continue to file copyright complaints. As far as I know, it is a copyright strike for the channel and thus, for the network as well.

If @Shane has a moment to clarify that last paragraph, I would appreciate it. If I file a copyright complaint and YouTube removes the video, does the channel get a strike? Does the network get a strike?
 
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markkaz said:
If I file a copyright complaint and YouTube removes the video, does the channel get a strike? Does the network get a strike?
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Channel, yes. They will get a copyright strike no matter who it comes from. Network, maybe. If the channel was managed, definitely but since nearly every network is overhauling their policies to match YouTube's new guidelines that is unlikely. The network can be affected if the channel was affiliate, it would just take longer (and require multiple strikes across hundreds of channels) to actually affect the network in anyway.
 
7 - (similar to number 3) - I want there to be a "downside" to the channel stealing my content. If all I do is claim the revenue and leave the video up without a strike, then there is no punishment for the thief. He is on a freeroll as we say in poker. He has a chance of a big win (if I don't catch him) and no chance of a loss. I don't want that. I want him to be held accountable for his actions and to suffer the consequences (a strike).

8 - I have worked extremely hard to build up my reputation as an authority in my niche. It is out of the question that I'm going to allow some clown misrepresent me or get any credit for my hard work.
 
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We have to be in a network to get your works submitted to the Content ID system? : o I always thought that we just had to sign up and be approved by YouTube:
support.google. com/youtube/answer/2797370?hl=en
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There's an "apply"button in the "Who can use Content ID?" section.

I'm not quite sure what would happen if they didn't approve an application. There's probably a lot more to it, because nothing is ever that straight-forward these days.

I can see your points for taking the videos down. I guess it somewhat depends on the type of content that you make, too. I wouldn't be very happy if someone copied me word-for-word if I were to make a cupcake baking tutorial, but I'd be stoked if someone covered an original song that I wrote. ^^ Re-uploading videos is pretty lame, too. =/ I can see why you'd want those to go away because the uploader is being a selfish thief and splitting your views.
 
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I'm not quite sure what would happen if they didn't approve an application. There's probably a lot more to it, because nothing is ever that straight-forward these days.
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Correct. I have applied before and I was denied. I have moved on because it is wasting my time.

Google makes a quarter of a million dollars a year from my channel and I can't get Content ID. They just say that I am a "valued partner".
 
markkaz said:
Correct. I have applied before and I was denied. I have moved on because it is wasting my time.

Google makes a quarter of a million dollars a year from my channel and I can't get Content ID. They just say that I am a "valued partner".
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That seems really messed up to me. If people are taking your content, then I'd think you should be able to get Content ID. It's not fair if it's reserved for mainly "mainstream" stuff.

The only other thing I can think of is going outside of publishing on YouTube. If I started selling my music on a site like "CD Baby," the files apparently get sent into YouTube's Content ID system through the CD Baby site (I've never done this, but they mention it on their site). I think that's similar to the Fullscreen episode you experienced, but perhaps there's something else that might work? =/

It makes a lot more sense to me now why channels go after these things, especially since there is nothing else to really do. YouTube needs to create another Content ID that not only scans for content matches but also scans to add to Content ID as channel videos are uploaded. How were you able to find that video that was uploaded? Was that with the other "Content Verification" tool?

Sorry for asking too many questions...I'm just curious and taking notes. ^_^;;
 
markkaz said:
Correct. I have applied before and I was denied. I have moved on because it is wasting my time.

Google makes a quarter of a million dollars a year from my channel and I can't get Content ID. They just say that I am a "valued partner".
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Yes, you unfortunately wouldn't qualify, even as an MCN it is extremely hard to be approved for.
You tend to need alot of exclusive rights (in one or more territories) for thousands of assets (videos, songs, sound effects, TV shows, Films etc) and in most cases those need to be non-YouTube/ UGC content.

Although in some ways I do like that plan because the system could easily be abused, sometimes not even on purpose. In December of 2013 the ScaleLab MCN accidental ContentID claimed some gaming videos in their Content Owner and ended up claiming 10s of 1000s of original gaming videos across YouTube..
 
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