Fighting the Copyright Strikes - real examples

[midzan21]

First of all in this thread and in all posts which I write here I would like to say some of my personal experiences about fighting the Copyright Strikes from which few of them had proof from original music authors and few of them was wrongly accomplished.

My first Strike was in 2010. It was pretty long time ago, but I remember what was problem - fake Strike from guy which thought that I toke his song and lyrics. What did then: contacted guy with few arguments which can proof of original lyrics and that I got music from friends former band. Song and lyrics was about one of friends which passed out (heart attack, died young) and from which I had permission to take music background which they made for similar type of song. After few days of communicating with guy, he called back Strike and channel was fine.

Second wrongly accomplished Strike was just year later. Again, problem was in lyrics of song which my friend made and I uploaded to my channel (he didn't had YouTube account back in days and I recorded with old photo camera). Problem was in few parts of lyrics which had idea in song which was pretty known in days. Strike got from some random guy which thought that he can remove video without contacting us. Problem was solved after 2 weeks of mailings with guy and with few calls to them so he can hear friend which had proof of lyrics (no music was used in video, it was made as we like to say "nasuvo*") Strike was got down.

Now here are few of Strikes which I couldn't help at all, but still I tried. One of them was older video which I got on mail from best buddy and I thought it would be nice to upload them on YouTube. Few days after upload I got contacted from National Geographic officials and got strike. It was fine because they sent me also mail so I know what is problem with video, and I got it fine, acknowledged that things because in video there was no NG logo (linked to their site in mail). That strike was in mid 2013 and that was problem to RPM Network (now MakerGen) so they canceled my Partnership.

Next big Strike which I acknowledged was video from one concert. I know, I was dumb before almost a year, I forgot that concert uploads, especially low quality ones can get Strike. I got it from music company Croatia Records. I got it from CEO's private mail. First I went, who the f*** is that guy, but after some research I contacted them and said that I'm sorry and that I removed video. Confirmation was fine, and they say that I need to pass Strike, and I passed it.

Now, here is one Strike from which I almost got in problems to International site. Really, I went aggressive to ORIGINAL SONG creator. I wroted in caps because I didn't do any research before fighting back to remove Strike. Guy which is original author had slow response time (waited for first response for almost a week) and after he send me a link to his channel where he explains that his song got STOLEN from one Croatian musician (lyrics and music, not even changed anything) which I mentioned in video description. I was really shocked before getting back response and then did some research. Whoa, 95% of Croatia still think that author which stole song is original author. Author was from Serbia and did song almost 10 years before. So, this Strike was retraced by author and we stay in good touch now (I got few questions where I can buy that original album, and he would send me it to my personal address at home for Christmass for free. Still shocked but yeah, good contacts need to stay good.) Strike came in September right on my Birthday (even guys which sang saw that I said to get on Strike aggressive, to not be idiot) and that is one of reasons to be hateful and aggressive.

And finally latest Strike was obvious, because Original Song creator (again, video is from this summer) got to pull some things. Reason: don't want any copy of song on Internet available because most of other authors got song to their names. This Strike didn't got removed and it was one of reasons to remove my old channel, and start again from 0.

If you have any questions how to proof original lyrics comment here or ask me via PM and I would answer. But important thing is - get digital copy of lyrics and music and be ready to send copy with song which it was thought it was stolen (Audacity can help, so they can hear difference with some simple editing).

Peace

*"nasuvo" - singing without background music, mostly popular in mountain part of Bosnia and in "Ganga", "krajiske songs" and "klapa" type of songs (Dalmatian part of Croatia)

 

[UKHypnotist]

You are confusing a Copyright Strikes with Content ID Claims on some of these I think. In only one of these instances, was the video initially removed, and you then had to fight to get it put back or was it more than one?. If not, that was no reason to kill your channel and start another. Three strikes would have killed your channel outright, and you have mentioned more than three instances; did you have to appeal to YouTube to unsuspend your channel on any of these occasions?

If that didn't happen and you only got a "Monetization Disabled" email from YouTube then the situation is a Third Party Claim, or Content ID, not a copyright strike. Copyright strikes also throw your channel into bad standing status and remove some of the premium partner features, such as run times longer than 15 minutes, and custom thumbnails. If you had waited the six months and gone to YouTube's Copyright School, the strike would have passed, and your features would have been restored. Google would still have remembered it though; so if your new channel is on the same account as the old one, I don't know if it would be affected or not.

I hope you are making your own videos now...and not even using that old song you did back then that caused you trouble?

 

[midzan21]

You are confusing a Copyright Strikes with Content ID Claims on some of these I think. In only one of these instances, was the video initially removed, and you then had to fight to get it put back or was it more than one?. If not, that was no reason to kill your channel and start another. Three strikes would have killed your channel outright, and you have mentioned more than three instances; did you have to appeal to YouTube to unsuspend your channel on any of these occasions?

If that didn't happen and you only got a "Monetization Disabled" email from YouTube then the situation is a Third Party Claim, or Content ID, not a copyright strike.
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I hope you are making your own videos now...and not even using that old song you did back then that caused you trouble?

In short for your first sentence - all videos mentioned here was first removed, then I fight back for getting it back and to remove Strike which I got with removal of videos (in 3 cases, owner won but that is not a big issue and that was for Croatia Records, Nat Geo and for women who is original author of song which she don't wanna on Internet).

I got bunch of 3rd party claims in my YouTube career and for all I agreed that I can't monetize videos anymore.

All of those problems was on my 3 old YouTube accounts. On first I couldn't get removed from ForelaDigital so I decide to get 3 strikes so I can get channel terminated, on second channel I got problems with AdSense (can't be partnered with anybody not even YouTube) so I removed that because of that and finally my latest channel I got removed because I got 2nd Strike from music company and mail to remove channel because they gave me 7 days to backup all videos and remove channel manually, otherwise they would find something else copyrighted and channel would be terminated. Last situation is strange for me, but because I don't have layer to be with me while trying to appeal on Strike (Music company is from Serbia, and video was recorded back in 2013 and until this year it didn't get anything not even 3rd Party Claim for music used in background which I mentioned in description of video and say that if needed I would remove video and create it again without background music). I think that music company wanted to remove video whatever is written in description of video.

Also all channels was created on separate emails, so I'm sure that there won't be any problems for terminating channels (at least I know that, now I connected collab and personal channel to one e-mail so I can control it all from one mail, not multiple ones)

EDIT: Now all videos are mine, and for music I'm using Royalty free music from Incompetech, and would use music from Position Music when Freedom! partners me (ETA: few days from today)

 

[UKHypnotist]

You are aware of course, that by founding another channel after having a channel terminated by YouTube you violated YouTube's Terms of Service?

The following is from the Google Policies, Safety and Reporting section of Google Support.

"Users whose accounts have been terminated are prohibited from accessing, possessing or creating any other YouTube accounts. When an account is terminated, the account owner will receive an email detailing the reason for the suspension."

It seems to me that you are (were) a deliberate pirate with no regard for rules or the law on top of that. Why didn't you find a genre where you could create original video material from the first, instead of stealing from other people? Media piracy is illegal; people go to jail and get heavy fines for it. You are lucky to have only lost several YouTube channels; all of which after the first was terminated should never have existed. Now you are planning to flaunt the rules further by joining a network?

At least you state all current videos are your own...sigh.