All Channels Not Created Equal?

[Le Chiffre]

Hey people,

I was thinking the other day, even if a company like Bungie explicitly states that any monetization of their gaming footage will be allowed...

I'm sure there's someone out there [simply use the YouTube search bar] that's uploaded Destiny Beta gameplay and have ads on it... with significant view counts too...

So is this saying that there's a total randomness to copyright claims or is there some unwritten rule where if you're channel is big enough you can get away with it, provided you're a managed partner of a legit network? Or if the channel has enough clout it gets special treatment from the developers... hmnnn conspiracy theories...

Let me low your thoughts people.

 

[Zephyr Wolf]

Hey people,

I was thinking the other day, even if a company like Bungie explicitly states that any monetization of their gaming footage will be allowed...

I'm sure there's someone out there [simply use the YouTube search bar] that's uploaded Destiny Beta gameplay and have ads on it... with significant view counts too...

So is this saying that there's a total randomness to copyright claims or is there some unwritten rule where if you're channel is big enough you can get away with it, provided you're a managed partner of a legit network? Or if the channel has enough clout it gets special treatment from the developers... hmnnn conspiracy theories...

Let me low your thoughts people.

If you have a partnership deal you can monetize any video game. If you are not partnered you will get copy right strikes and infringements on your videos. This is because some of the "ad" revenue made from your video is given to that game's company for compensation.

 

[RedFox]

If I'm not mistaken those partnered in a network no matter what status do not have their videos run through the Content ID Database, so their video won't get picked up and remains online with ads, unless Disney specifically take down the video/s.

 

[Le Chiffre]

If you have a partnership deal you can monetize any video game. If you are not partnered you will get copy right strikes and infringements on your videos. This is because some of the "ad" revenue made from your video is given to that game's company for compensation.

Interesting, so they'll say one blanket statement to the masses but accept different behavior given the right circumstances. Did you monetize your destiny gameplay? Sorry I can't see because I'm on a mac and I don't have flash installed but use html5 instead (it completely ignores any ads).

Btw, your gif is hilarious! LMFAO[DOUBLEPOST=1408886391,1408885987][/DOUBLEPOST]

If I'm not mistaken those partnered in a network no matter what status do not have their videos run through the Content ID Database, so their video won't get picked up and remains online with ads, unless Disney specifically take down the video/s.

Right, but from my research just because you get partnered with any run of the mill network it won't matter because you're an affiliate and also depends on if the network is reputable or not right?

For example, I'd rather be a managed partner with Polaris than say Freedom.

Is my thinking in line?

 

[Tarmack]

If you have a partnership deal you can monetize any video game. If you are not partnered you will get copy right strikes and infringements on your videos. This is because some of the "ad" revenue made from your video is given to that game's company for compensation.

This has never been true. Network partnership has never had monetization rights attached.[DOUBLEPOST=1408890001,1408889916][/DOUBLEPOST]

If I'm not mistaken those partnered in a network no matter what status do not have their videos run through the Content ID Database, so their video won't get picked up and remains online with ads, unless Disney specifically take down the video/s.

Video game content of basic gameplay is impossible for ContentID to match. It can't match a style or pick out specific video assets from a gameplay video. It needs exact content to match against which is why it hits music and cutscenes.

 

[vatiwah]

I am pretty sure for MOST gamers here, networks will not protect you from content ID match. Most gamers will end up being an affiliate status, which means you are not protected. With managed status, you are somewhat protected. If one of your video gets a strike, the network gets hurt, not you. Of course that means the network can kick you out cause they don't want to risk any more strikes from you.

 

[Le Chiffre]

I am pretty sure for MOST gamers here, networks will not protect you from content ID match. Most gamers will end up being an affiliate status, which means you are not protected. With managed status, you are somewhat protected. If one of your video gets a strike, the network gets hurt, not you. Of course that means the network can kick you out cause they don't want to risk any more strikes from you.

hmn, there's always differing opinions... lol let me ask you this, how do you know if your video gets a claim it hurts the network as an affiliate? My research suggests they will not protect you at all legally.

The research seems to show that it's a case by case basis, I mean the bigger channels are obviously getting special treatment haha I'm not sure anyone can refute that.

 

[vatiwah]

hmn, there's always differing opinions... lol let me ask you this, how do you know if your video gets a claim it hurts the network as an affiliate? My research suggests they will not protect you at all legally.

The research seems to show that it's a case by case basis, I mean the bigger channels are obviously getting special treatment haha I'm not sure anyone can refute that.

As an affiliate partner, the network does not protect you. Any copyright strikes you get is on your account. With a managed partner, if you get a strike the network "takes care of it". Of course, as you said, bigger channels get special treatment. Mostly, the larger channels are managed, while smaller channels are affiliates.

Networks does not protect you legally, but they help mitigate and help POSSIBLY get you off the hook. As a small channel, if you get terminated, you are screwed. Good luck trying to reach youtube. A network might be able to talk to youtube and help you in a timely manner.

 

[Tarmack]

As an affiliate partner, the network does not protect you. Any copyright strikes you get is on your account. With a managed partner, if you get a strike the network "takes care of it". Of course, as you said, bigger channels get special treatment. Mostly, the larger channels are managed, while smaller channels are affiliates.

No. Managed status was designed for channels owned and operated directly by the network. As such, all strikes among that managed group hit the MCN directly. Each MCN has a threshold somewhere in the 15-20 range of how many strikes they get before punishments begin. Very very few channels are managed because that requires the network to take full legal responsibility for your actions. Even huge multi-million subscriber channels struggle to get managed under most networks.

 

[Le Chiffre]

No. Managed status was designed for channels owned and operated directly by the network. As such, all strikes among that managed group hit the MCN directly. Each MCN has a threshold somewhere in the 15-20 range of how many strikes they get before punishments begin. Very very few channels are managed because that requires the network to take full legal responsibility for your actions. Even huge multi-million subscriber channels struggle to get managed under most networks.

I had a feeling that was the correct answer..

But may I ask how did you come across this info?