Best Youtube Gaming Network?

ApexSpartan

ApexSpartan

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So as a gamer and as I do gaming videos including commentaries and more ,I'm wondering what would be the best YT network for gamers?
I know Machinima, Yeousch and TGN are the 3 popular ones (plus few more), but I wonder if there are any other and even better ones.

I do not care about requirements, I just wish to know. Currently I'm only focusing on getting subs, views and a good community of my subs that I can interact with and partnerships will come later, but I'm still interested to which is the best network that you would suggest for gaming.
 
Machinima - bad contracts (3 years) bad CPM (~$2) and bad support.

Yeousch - I don't know enough about their support/CPM, but they offered a pretty bad offer when I applied (I was at 1 million monthly views, and they only could offer up to 70-30 up from their basic split of 65-45. Pretty much all others were at least able to go to 80-20 and several 90-10 or above.

TGN - Great contract length (leave at any time) but awful CPM (~$.5-$1 often) and bad support.

By comparison I'm in a network getting 75-25 but great CPM ($4-5 normally, above $5 currently) with great support and short (3 or 6 month) contracts. Sadly their views per month requirement is around 100k (they sometimes make exceptions, but probably not when you're 7k views per month)

Note - all CPMs listed are "take home" and after YouTube and network cuts have been taken out. To get revenue, take CPM and multiply vs MONETIZED views (not total views).

All data points are from my own research + experiences as well as talking with numerous partners of each. Cheers.

EDIT: Also read my signature. You're best off staying with AdSense for now.
 
I wouldn`t join a Network in the first Year but if I had too I would probably get in Contact with those Networks to see what they would offer me if I wouldn`t be already part of a Network:

1. Union For Gamers (Curse would be probably currently the Number One Gaming Network if the s**t between them and Machinima/Google hadn`t happened in the past. Just to be clear: One of the few Networks that doesn`t treat People like s**t if it comes to their Contracts. Nothing bad to report about them from my Side and I don`t know a single One of my Friends who is with them that aren`t happy to be it. )

2. Machinima (Know a few Boys/Girls that are with them and I can only tell you that none of them a.) are starving or b.) having any Troubles. In the past Machinima did the Mistake to pay out a few Drama Queens Mobile Views and those got then kicked out and make a big Deal out of it and looking Machinima very, very bad but...well I`m telling everyone always to try to get the hole Picture and not only believe what you see on some Website show up)

3. Fullscreen Arcade (I`m with Fullscreen so you might call me biased but the Network is really growing fast and over the last couple of Months it has really increased it`s Quality and not only it`s Quantity and since Fullscreen is expanding I`m wondering where Fullscreen Arcade might be in like a couple of Years since Fullscreen seem to become a real big Global Player on the Market if it comes to YouTube Networks)

Overall my only advise to you would be to never ever sell you to cheap if you join a Network and have already a decent among of monthly views - You will regret it sooner then you might think about it!
 
Flammy said:
Machinima - bad contracts (3 years) bad CPM (~$2) and bad support.

Yeousch - I don't know enough about their support/CPM, but they offered a pretty bad offer when I applied (I was at 1 million monthly views, and they only could offer up to 70-30 up from their basic split of 65-45. Pretty much all others were at least able to go to 80-20 and several 90-10 or above.

TGN - Great contract length (leave at any time) but awful CPM (~$.5-$1 often) and bad support.

By comparison I'm in a network getting 75-25 but great CPM ($4-5 normally, above $5 currently) with great support and short (3 or 6 month) contracts. Sadly their views per month requirement is around 100k (they sometimes make exceptions, but probably not when you're 7k views per month)

Note - all CPMs listed are "take home" and after YouTube and network cuts have been taken out. To get revenue, take CPM and multiply vs MONETIZED views (not total views).

All data points are from my own research + experiences as well as talking with numerous partners of each. Cheers.

EDIT: Also read my signature. You're best off staying with AdSense for now.
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Flammy-a lot of gamers go straight with Adsense, and their accounts get banned. Gamers now go with networks just because they have a less likely chance of getting banned for monetizing their videos. It's not about any licences things or anything as you know; it's just that YouTube/Google tend to screw gamers over who go straight with Adsense. :/
 
InfamousMango said:
Flammy-a lot of gamers go straight with Adsense, and their accounts get banned. Gamers now go with networks just because they have a less likely chance of getting banned for monetizing their videos. It's not about any licences things or anything as you know; it's just that YouTube/Google tend to screw gamers over who go straight with Adsense. :/
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I seriously disagree that "lots of gamers" get banned with adsense.

The majority of people get in trouble with...
  1. game music
  2. trailers
  3. single player games campaigns - ESPECIALLY cuts scenes.
  4. uploading games from known ******* publishers (EA cut scenes, nintendo on some titles/platforms, capcom, etc --- If you can google it and find multiple cases of issues with the title/publisher, think twice)
Those are all things that are copyright ID matched. And no, YouTube/Google isn't out to get gamers - we getting views means they are getting money after all. They are out to protect themselves from lawsuits, which means they don't take down content themselves but they HAVE to provide the tools for copyright holders to take action.
 
Flammy said:
I seriously disagree that "lots of gamers" get banned with adsense.

The majority of people get in trouble with...
  1. game music
  2. trailers
  3. single player games campaigns - ESPECIALLY cuts scenes.
  4. uploading games from known ******* publishers (EA cut scenes, nintendo on some titles/platforms, capcom, etc --- If you can google it and find multiple cases of issues with the title/publisher, think twice)
Those are all things that are copyright ID matched. And no, YouTube/Google isn't out to get gamers - we getting views means they are getting money after all. They are out to protect themselves from lawsuits, which means they don't take down content themselves but they HAVE to provide the tools for copyright holders to take action.
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I see. But a lot of gamers do get their adsense accounts banned. If I did some of the same things while in a network, it would be fine. And I noticed most people in a network have a less chance of running into problems like that. Like if you google gaming youtube partnerships, there is also a video about it. I know most people do think that networks have "licenses" and they are wrong; but I have found personally that going with a network has been better in terms of not getting banned.

LOOL. Yeah, some people do that (upload gameplay with cutscenes ect...) while in a network, and they are safer than just being alone on adsense. Isn't there a difference with how the content ID thing works for people in a network, than people directly with adsense?
 
InfamousMango said:
Isn't there a difference with how the content ID thing works for people in a network, than people directly with adsense?
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No. Just ask risky, with the exception that if you are in a network and get a strike you can remain in it vs if you are on adsense you can't join until it gets resolved typically.

Same likelihood of getting a strike or getting your content claimed and monetized.
 
Flammy said:
No. Just ask risky, with the exception that if you are in a network and get a strike you can remain in it vs if you are on adsense you can't join until it gets resolved typically.

Same likelihood of getting a strike or getting your content claimed and monetized.
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Ahh. I still think it's a bit better for us smaller YouTubers. I, and people I know found it better than Adsense. We all got that same general "imposing risk of invalid activity" message. I even got it on a brand new channel before I joined a network; and I did not have any adsense linked. I agree most of it is people clicking ads on purpose, or by mistake. But there are so many people that get banned everyday and I have not come by one person who has been banned from it whilst in a network. :p
 
TGS is apparently a good network just very hard to get into ;D
Dont know alot of info about them (Contact Length , Split) but apparently a good network.
 
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