Are big game commentaries going to come to an end?

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I've argued extensively with a few people over the legal and moral implications of doing commentary over video games. THQ has filed for chapter 11, and gaming producers are looking for other ways to profit off their work.

As you may be aware BATTLEFIELD 3 has been claiming the video portion of uploaded videos as they have been placing their ads on non-partnered channels for about a month. This is all now changing, BATTLEFIELD 3 has been hitting partnered channels with 10k+ subscribers for content ID with their videos.

EXAMPLE
youtube.com/watch?v=ReeLBH0VpyA

Of course if you do not dispute the content match then in theory you would be easily found legally liable for lost revenues before the claim was made. If you do dispute the claim then odds are you'll be found in error and a copyright strike will be issued, you would then need to file a fair use exception with respected courts and a nice legal battle would ensue.

BF3 is a fairly large game, what would happen if COD/MineCraft started using content ID on their games?

I am a firm believer this will happen eventually and I have made this clear in the past..
What are your opinions?
Would you still add your voice to gameplay if you couldn't monetize it?


EDIT: I now know two people who have lost their partnership because of disputing BF3 content id claims and in turn received a copyright strike!
 
I think it's only the greedy companies that do this. I can see EA or Activision making claims. I don't see Ubisoft or Square Enix doing it though. I think they appreciate the free promotion they get. Nice of you to start a discussion about this Freebie ;)
 
Freebie said:
I've argued extensively with a few people over the legal and moral implications of doing commentary over video games. THQ has filed for chapter 11, and gaming producers are looking for other ways to profit off their work.

As you may be aware BATTLEFIELD 3 has been claiming the video portion of uploaded videos as they have been placing their ads on non-partnered channels for about a month. This is all now changing, BATTLEFIELD 3 has been hitting partnered channels with 10k+ subscribers for content ID with their videos.

EXAMPLE
youtube.com/watch?v=ReeLBH0VpyA

Of course if you do not dispute the content match then in theory you would be easily found legally liable for lost revenues before the claim was made. If you do dispute the claim then odds are you'll be found in error and a copyright strike will be issued, you would then need to file a fair use exception with respected courts and a nice legal battle would ensue.

BF3 is a fairly large game, what would happen if COD/MineCraft started using content ID on their games?

I am a firm believer this will happen eventually and I have made this clear in the past..
What are your opinions?
Would you still add your voice to gameplay if you couldn't monetize it?


EDIT: I now know two people who have lost their partnership because of disputing BF3 content id claims and in turn received a copyright strike!
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freebiefm! <3 your channel! haha always go there to search for music to use on my vids LOL.

well back to the topic, yeah every big companies are trying to gain more profits. I think commentators who commentate for $ would stop whereas people who do it as a hobby, would just continue it, whether or not they receive a strike.
 
Yeah it's usually the mahoosive games that'll do this. But smaller games, even ones you have to pay to play, won't even bother because allowing YouTube videos is free whereas paying for video advertising is extremely costly. Even most larger companies won't be that bothered by it, because again: money is money, and free advertising is awesome.

Even so, the player still gets paid for their view when monetised via a partnered network. There may be a cut taken out, but hey. It's not like many of us are ever gonna earn a living off our vids so who cares right? :)
 
Activision is just really greedy, lmao. They wont even let the CoD franchise have an open beta. >.< Which is going to be the death of them.
 
I can see bigger game companies do that :( They only wanna see moneh -.- Nice thread ya started man :)
 
Freebie said:
I've argued extensively with a few people over the legal and moral implications of doing commentary over video games. THQ has filed for chapter 11, and gaming producers are looking for other ways to profit off their work.

As you may be aware BATTLEFIELD 3 has been claiming the video portion of uploaded videos as they have been placing their ads on non-partnered channels for about a month. This is all now changing, BATTLEFIELD 3 has been hitting partnered channels with 10k+ subscribers for content ID with their videos.

EXAMPLE
youtube.com/watch?v=ReeLBH0VpyA

Of course if you do not dispute the content match then in theory you would be easily found legally liable for lost revenues before the claim was made. If you do dispute the claim then odds are you'll be found in error and a copyright strike will be issued, you would then need to file a fair use exception with respected courts and a nice legal battle would ensue.

BF3 is a fairly large game, what would happen if COD/MineCraft started using content ID on their games?

I am a firm believer this will happen eventually and I have made this clear in the past..
What are your opinions?
Would you still add your voice to gameplay if you couldn't monetize it?


EDIT: I now know two people who have lost their partnership because of disputing BF3 content id claims and in turn received a copyright strike!
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If your network doesn`t have the licenses they can claim the visuals of the video because it isn`t the content`s creators to use in the first place.....

Minecraft doesn`t need a license as notch has put a paragraph on the website that says you don`t need one , this is to allow for people to post timelapses etc (no commentary)
 
Shane.Vultra said:
If your network doesn`t have the licenses they can claim the visuals of the video because it isn`t the content`s creators to use in the first place.....

Minecraft doesn`t need a license as notch has put a paragraph on the website that says you don`t need one , this is to allow for people to post timelapses etc (no commentary)
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I understand Minecraft may be different, my impression is that the community was built via YouTube & similar sites and I am also under the impression Mojang is composed of some really decent people so forgive me if I am wrong here.. One must remember that even if Minecraft had gave everyone permission to use ingame footage for commericial reasons they would still stay well within any legal code by attaching a Content ID (and thus ads) to the video.

It's my understanding that if Minecraft was to ever send an actual copyright strikes they would be liable for lost damages because of the aforementioned paragraph.. I don't believe any company is prevented from attaching Content ID in any circumstances. Since we are all well aware of the potential revenue stream that is YouTube I wouldn't be surprised if we see more of this in the future.

Thank-you for all the great feedback everyone.
 
ChannelOlli said:
I think it's only the greedy companies that do this. I can see EA or Activision making claims. I don't see Ubisoft or Square Enix doing it though. I think they appreciate the free promotion they get. Nice of you to start a discussion about this Freebie ;)
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Lol. I got 3 copyright claims in the past day from Ubisoft for Blood Dragon gameplay (which is how I ended up on this thread... lol). As far as I'm concerned now, Ubisoft is right up there with EA and Activision.

A lot of people would do anything to get free press for their products, so I don't really understand why these companies are so stingy. Some of these greedy videogame empires clearly only think short term and live in constant fear of losing nickels. And they will eventually fail because of it. Which is good. It will make room at the top of the pyramid for companies who actually give a s**t about their customers :p.
 
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